Hm, našli so še nekaj več misli o reformi slovenske države, kot jih je našel Luther za reformo Cerkve. Državi gre očitno res slabo.

Golobič bo prevzel levico v naslednjem mandatu.. Upam!

En tak brezplačniško reklamni tekstek. :)

Jest sam upam, da mi z novim RTV zakonom ne skinejo Menči Klančar.. Sm se tok navezu..

prišlo je do preobrata, končno lahko Sever začne s hvalospevi poziciji.
Poskus pluralizacije se končuje, vse je treba vrniti na stare tire.

kapodol
Ja v opoziciji.

Revčki, sej vam je firer vse zajebu.. brez njega bi bili se zdej na oblasti..

ZARES dober komentar. Glede na to, da vest.si daje vtis kot da se trudi biti nevtralen medij, bi veljalo razmisliti o kakšnem novem kolumnistu. Severni je zares za v pokoj.

http://www.delo.si/clanek/68851

Pač levičarski brezplačnik :).

Še sreča da imamo dekomkracijo. Ljudje so izbrali in spet smo sproščeni, na pravi poti, brez afer, upokojenci pa imajo polne denarnice, nič več groženj s protesti, delnice pa gredo na dno..
I feel Slovenia…

Unirdečuh,

ti pa raje, kot da vznemirjaš Severja, poišči na vesti.si Jonasovo povezavo na Žižkovo predavanje Googlovcem, če razumeš angleško, seveda. Pa saj jo Žižek tako zabavno po domače klati kot tvoj janša, torej bo že šlo nekako..

Vzemi si urico oddiha in obilo zabave!

Ne morem verjeti, kako bedni komentatorji na tej Vesti. Pa seveda ne mislim Severja, amapk marsikoga od vas, ki komentirate njegov članek. Namesto, da bi se obregnili ob kako zadevo, ki jo nudi Zares, o čemer pač piše Sever, ob njihove prioritete, še sami razmislite, kateri od izpostavljenih programskih nastavkv stranke Zares bi lahko res bili konfliktni z drugimi strankami in podobno, se tu poganjate v nekega novinarja, ki piše, kar pač misli, da je prav. In za razliko od mnogih pisunov v tej deželi sploh ni slab. Vseeno pa tu vlada ena sama kultura diskreditiranja.
Ko se bodo ti Slovenceljni naučili razmišljati o stvareh, bomo mogoče kaj napredovali. Ob vsej tej latovščini in neverjetnem gnevu, pa mislim, da je bolje, da živimo vsak bolj zase.

Ne vem, zakaj kdo ne opazi, da ta medij nudi vsakomur povsem dovolj prostora, da v svojih komentarjih pobije kakršno koli novinarjevo misel. Mar ni to ok? To je več, kot terja slavna pravica do popravka. Pri takem mediju, kot je Vest, pa seveda še pri kakem internetnem, je praktično vseeno, če bi bili novinarji najbolj rdeči ali pa najbolj črni na tem svetu. Vsakdo ima tule, tik pod otvoritvenim člankom, možnost napisati vso (drugo) resnico. Če jo seveda pozna. Ali če zna vsaj še kdo napisati kaj več kot en stavek skoncentrirano. tega ne nudi tisk s svojo prostorsko omejenostjo in tega ne nudita niti televizija in radijo, ki sta časovno omejena.

A očitno je nekaterim ljubše, da pobijejo novinarja. Mogoče mislijo, da je tako bolj enostavno… Pa ni. Novinar bi lahko bil največji bednik na svetu, največji skorumpiranec, največji bedak, pa bi bila kaka misel, ki jo zapiše, še vseeno lahko pravilna, resnična …

Vedno znova pa sem presenečen, kako se ljudje še kar obkladajo z rdečimi in črnimi. Najbrž je svet mnogim, ki jim inteligenčni kvocient ne seže niti nekje do 100, res bolj enostaven, če se ga prikaže črno-belega oz. črno-rdečega. Res smo še globoko v gnoju. Pardon, svet je lep, le v glavah nekaterih je sila grdo.

V tej koaliciji bo motor dogajanja Golobič z Zaresom, SD bo nudila “oder”, LDS pa bo šminkirala in capljala naokrog ter se delala pomembno in občasno užaljeno. Skratka nedorasla….

Propolis, najboljši lek za omejence tipa “uničevalec rdečuhov” in “konec” je pustiti jih pri miru. Saj veš kako je s kravjekom na cesti. Dokler ga ne mešaš smrdi, a je še znosno, ko začneš brskati po njem, pa odda ves svoj smrad in ni druge možnosti, kot da se umakneš in ga prepustiš muham in črvom, da dokončajo svoje poslanstvo.

# nesesekirat pravi:
10. oktober, 2008 ob 16:16
Slovenija se nahaja v Evropi in njeno gospodarstvo je usodno vezano na zahodno Evropo”
- se strinjam ampak samo gospodarsko, ker denar je denar in tudi komunistom paše. Kulturno pa ne o tem ni dvoma!
Slovenija je in še bo precej časa še vedno precej vzhodna post-komunistična država, seveda pa je predvsem balkanska država, kar potrjujejo volitve.

” Slovenija je samostojna srednjeevroska demokratična republika,” - je predvsem balkanska, ajde, ne sprenevedaj se.

In, če se bo uresničilo pol točk Zares-a, bomo zadovoljni vsi. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

# miško pravi:
10. oktober, 2008 ob 18:06

Propolis, najboljši lek za omejence tipa “uničevalec rdečuhov” in “konec” je pustiti jih pri miru. Saj veš kako je s kravjekom na cesti. Dokler ga ne mešaš smrdi, a je še znosno, ko začneš brskati po njem, pa odda ves svoj smrad in ni druge možnosti, kot da se umakneš in ga prepustiš muham in črvom, da dokončajo svoje poslanstvo.

Je govoril komunajzer.

Konec, kje si pa mene videl na tejle strani? Skupaj z belimi mišmi in letečimi sloni?

U Carlos Contreras, tebe se je pa za bat, ali kaj ;-)

Konec, paranoidne shizofrenije ne zdravijo na vest.si, ampak na Polju, v Begunjah in v Idriji. Vrzi kovanec, potem pa le brž pot pod noge!

@Carlos
no, zdaj si ga pa čisto prestrašil :((

Kar se koalicijske pogodbe tiče, saj se tako, mislim, delajo dobri načrti: najprej okvirni cilji, potem pa natečaj za konkretne akcije za doseganje teh ciljev. Pa naj na natečaju zmagajo najboljše ideje, čeprav vseh 99 pametnega Gregorja. Zares, želim si, da bi Slovenci imeli ministra Gregorja. Gotovo ne bi mogli reči: Minister Gregor pa nič.

nesesekirat, ne se sekirat………fantje grejo po sejah, ko se grdo gledajo in škripljejo z zobmi, skupaj na kozarček in poklepetajo o vsakdanjih problemih……..tako kot pri snemanju filma med pavzo :)
Ne splača se vzeti zadevo preresno :)
konec demokracije na istem bregu si dajeva duška, vendar če Carlosa ne bi bilo več, bi videl, kako bi ga pogrešal :)

Konkretiziranje omogoča da so cilji izvedljivi inn obljube preverljive. Podobno naj se proučijo tudi obljube SDS.

Sever očitno dopušča demnoktratično izmenjavo mnenj, če bi bil na njegovem mestu bi brezvsebinske prispevke izločil v posseben koš (ne bi jih izbrisal ampak presortiral). Večina komnetarjev je namreč pretirano privoščljivih in pisanih z vnaprejšnjim s ciljem diskreditacije.

V Sloveniji boste tako nadalje razdeljevali, kopali “jarke in bunkerje”… Tovrstna komunikacija je komunikacija gluhih in zabitih. Vsi bomo samo ranjeni.

Predlagam, da kritični natančno spremljate dejansko izvajanje pozitivnih projektov. To bi nam zelo koristilo.

lep dan

Vladislav

Malo več korektnosti do Jankovića, prosim. Večina gradbenih del na vrtcih in šolah je bila opravljena v poletnih mesecih in niso bila avansirana. Po plačilu teh del je/bo ljubljanski proračun bistveno manj poln.

@francka:

Povej cel citat in ne le besede Stalin, ce upas. Grem glavo stavit, da ga niti ne ves… Ponovi za menoj: “Kontekst”. Bo slo? Ostalo pa je manipulativno na priblizno enaki ravni…

provokacija, ki pa, če je lepo zrežirana …….
Kučanova udbo(mafija) s pomočjo komunističnje partije je prišla komaj ponovno na oblast in je danes ponoči organizirala “umor” zasovraženega koroškega “nacističnega” diktatorja.
Naj avstrijska policija dobro preišče okolice in morebitne krivce……

Sožalje svojcem in družini.

@konec demokracije:

LOL, rezen ce slucajno mislis resno…

A danes že dela?

Lepo , da smo lahko prebrali nekaj od 99 Golobičevih predlogov, s katerimi smo lahko vsi več ali manj zadovoljni.
Verjetno je Sever izbral objavo samo nekaterih predlogov, za katere je sam menil, da so ključnega pomena za boljši jutri.
Pogrešam, pa predlog o novi zunanji politiki, predlog o bolj ozaveščenemu ravnanju z našo lepo deželico,
poudarku na ohranjanju - vsaj v merah razumnih možnosti- okolja, poudarku na trajnostmen razvoju
tudi na področju reševanja energetskih problemov, poudarku na gradnji okolju in človeku nevarnih projektov daleč od naseljenih področij saj je vse to tudi močno povezano z zdravljem
vseh nas občanov , to je PREDVSEM imeti pravico TUDI živetu v zdravem okolju in ne samo pravico do kvalitetnih zdravstvenih uslug ALI ZDRAVIL, ki bi jih ne potrebovali, če bi imeli MOŽNOST ŽIVETI V ZDRAVEM OKOLJU- ZAME JE OKOLJEVARSTVO BISTVENEGA POMENA, SAJ VES GOSPODARSKI RAZVOJ NA TEM SVETU MI NIČ NE POMENI, ČE POČASI UMIRAM ZARADI onesnaženega morja, rek, zraka in posledično tudi zastrupljene hrane itd in to samo zato, ker nekateri NAJVEČJI ONESNAŽEVALCI NAŠE LEPE DEŽELICE NE PLAČUJEJO NITI DAVKA , KI BI GA LAHKO IMENOVALI POSEBEN DAVEK ZA PRODUKCIJO UMAZANIJE, čeprav nam bi to seveda bore malo pomagalo, potrebno bo v skladu Z OKOLJEVARSTVENO DIREKTIVO USKLADITI TUDI ZAKONE NA TEM PODROČJU IN TUDI imeti pravico reči NE tako imenivanim prodanim ekonomijam tretjega sveta, NE še nadaljnemu oboreževanju, ki služi sami tistemu, ki s tem ogromno zasluži, NE nepotrebim apetitom posameznih multinacionalk, politikom in gospodarstvenikom, ki želijo imeti vsak svoje terminale ali terminatorje tudi na močno poseljenih področjih in na najbolj neprimernih mestih za njihove projekte, ampak zato pa najbolj dosnosnih krajih, napr. Tržaški zaliv je zelo plitek, zato …itd…itd..
Prioritete, naj bi bile - no nekaj je res nujnih- kot napr. finančni cunami, ki se še ni pokazal v vsej svoji veličini- tudi URAVNOVEŠEN in HOLISTIČEN ODNOS DO NARAVE..ITD..ITD..

@Sanja, hvala za obvestilo, da ne bo nepotrebnega nesporazuma, VSE KAR STE NAPISALI VEM IN JE O.K.-
Kaj jso nekateri, točno 3-je člani(PAVEL GANTAR, FRANCI KEK IN FRANCO JURI) današnje stranke ZARES naredili tudi glede terminalov , . , to je nekako od druge polovice leta 96 vem popolnoma vse,
ko pravim vse, pomeni tudi vse karkoli je bilo na tem področju narejenega, napisanega, nenapisanega, kar se je v javnosti vedelo ali NI VEDELO.
Tudi glede MOČNEGA IN V ZAČETKU IZREDNO VPLIVNEGA IN ODMEVNEGA DELA OKOLJEVARSVENIH NEVLADNIH ORGANIZACIJ( NA TEM PODROČJU UMANOTERA, KOT VLADNA ORG. NI MIGNILA NITI Z ENIM PRSTOM) …itd..itd…itd… , na kratko nekako takole, takrat je bila naša vlada v odhajanju ZELO tiho , verjetno je vedela zakaj IN ŠELE, ko so ital. in slov, ter tudi hrv. okoljevarsvene org. zagnale velik vik in krik, je tudi vlada morala nekaj storiti , predhodna CIZ- danes JE AGG IN DEL MEDN NEVL ORG. AGG- ALPE ADRIA GREEN , ki združuje najmanj 6 okolj. org.JE NAJVEČ NAPRAVILA Z VELIKO ODREKANJA IN PLAČEVANJA LASTNIH STROŠKOV RAVNO V TEJ ZGODBI TERMINALI IN TO ŽE OD DNEVA 1- IN ŠE VEDNO ODLIČNO DELUJE IN UKREPA, MALO TEGA PA JE , RAVNO ZARADI NESVOBODE MEDIJEV V ODHAJAJOČI VLADI
PRIŠLO V JAVNOST KAR LAHKO POVEMO JE, DA V ODHAJAJOČI VLADI LAHKO TUDI POZDRAVIMO VES TRUD , KI GA JE MINISTER PODOBNIK NAPRAVIL NA TEM PODROČJU ( ter ves trud , ki ga je medresorska komisija Marko Starmana na redila na tem področju)
ZADNJI PODOBNIKOV ODZIV , TO JE POSLANO PROTESNO PISMO ITAL. VLADI GLEDE ZGODBE TERMINALI, JE DOBIL VELIK ODMEV V ITAL. ČASPOPISIH, glede naših časopisov pa upajmo, da bo kaj napisanega, vsaj to , kar so sestavile ital. okolj. organizacije, ki so del AGG IN POSLALE OBEMA VLADAMA V VEDNOST …ITD…DRUŽBA MORA POSTATI BOLJ POZORNA, KAJ SE NA PODROČJU OKOLJEVARSTVA DOGAJA, NAŽALOST VEČJI ZASLUŽEK, VEČJA KORUPCIJA, TAKO PAČ JE.
IN TUDI NEKIM NAŠIM MEDIJEM… …ITD..ITD…SE OPRAVIČUJEMO ZA VELIKE ČRKE- NENAMERNO IN NIMAMO ČASA ZA POPRAVEK. HVALA.

Glede stranke ZARES pa točno vem tudi kaj so na tem področje že napravili in to od dneva 3 , naprimer Pavel Gantar, ki je bil eden prvih politikov , ( ZDALEČ PRVI , KI JE JAVNO PODPRL , JE SEVEDA BIL DR. JANEZ DRNOVŠEK)
GANTAR in FRANCI KEK , STA BILA DRUGA POLITIKA, KI STA TO JAVNO PODPRLA,
FRANCO JURI,
danes parla. poslanec stranke ZARES , pa je že od DNEVA 1. OGROMNO napravil prav na tem področju…itd..
MOJ KOMENTAR SE JE NANAŠAL NA TO, DA SEVER-JU SE TA PREDLOG K KOALICIJSKI POGODBI NI ZDEL VREDEN OMEMBE V NJEGOVEM ČLANKU IN NIČ DRUGEGA , SAJ JE TUDI ON ŽE OD VSEGA ZAČETKA, TO JE DNEVA 2 KOT GL.UREDNIK MLADINE OGROMNO POMAGAL IN POPOLNOMA PODPRL ZGODBO REČI NE TERMINALOM.
TO JE VSE.
SICEP PA, ME VESELI , DA JE VSAJ VEST. SI TAKO NEODVISEN MEDIJ, DA IMAMO VSI MOŽNOST NEKAJ NAPISATI.
HVALA

DRUGAČE PA, VSE NAJBOLJŠE

Super. Napaka je odpravljena. Računalnik več ne briše mojih komentarjev.

Samo, da zdaj več nimam časa, da bi še enkrat napisal vse, kar sem želel z vami podebatirati. :(

Datum: 8.10.2008

V Sloveniji presoja vplivov na okolje postaja donosen posel

V GREENSLO Slovenija smo v zadnjem času prejeli kar nekaj anonimnih klicov in e-misem v zvezi z nekaterimi objekti na Slovenkem, ki potrebujejo presojo vplivov na okolje. Vsa pisma in klici imajo eno skupno lastnost, to je priporočilo naročnika, da naj bo presoja vplivov na okolje narejena tako, da »ne bo problemov z nadaljnimi postopki«. Druga skupna točka je, da so naročniki pripravljeni plačati veliko več, kot za realno oceno. Žal prijavitelji niso pripravljeni sodelovati pri razkrivanju teh podjetij saj so v dveh primerih zaposleni v njih v drugih primerih pa so zaposleni pri naročnikih.

Ta čas v GREENSLO-ju pripravljamo tri ovadbe zoper odgovorne osebe zaradi suma zlorabe pooblastil ter napeljevanja na nezakonito dejanje ter zaradi suma prejemanja podkupnin in podkupovanja za izdajo lažne ocene presoje vplivov na okolje. Zadnjo prijavo bomo poslali še na Antikorupcisko komisijo, saj gre za objekt splošnega družbenega pomena.

Rom
Pogledala sem stran Greenslo. Na žalost je zelo “nabasana”, nepregledna in polna slovničnih napak in manjkajočih vejic. Od slovničnih napak se ne zboli, lahko te pa odvrnejo od nadaljnjega branja. Za začetek vsaj naslov Aktulno popravite v Aktualno.

če bo treba, bom šla še enkrat demonstrirat

Sonja in ostali kritizerji - ne kritiki!!!!

Na GREENSLO Slovenije smo prejeli e-pošto z Vašimi kritikami, kar je najlažje storiti, brez, da bi bi poznali situacijo v katerem deluje naše združenje in še mnogo nam podobnih!

Naj Vam napišem samo nekaj dejstev:

1) GREENSLO Slovenije je bil ustanovljen z razlogom, da bi združil čimveč okoljskih organizacij ne glede na njihovo politično, versko, regionalno ter specifično usmerjenostjo. Z istim razlogom smo ustanovili tudi AAG, da bi skupno z tujemi NOV poizkusili reševali eko probleme, ki se tičejo prebivalcev iz obmejnih področij!

2) V organizaciji nimamo niti enega ne redno ne hunorarno zaposlenega!

3) GREENSLO Slovenije, ravnotako AAG delujeta brez kakšnekoli denarne podpore s strani države, saj smo bili na razpisu MOP in drugih državnih razpisih , ki “daje denarno podporo NOV”, odbiti zaradi slabega programa dela, saj ne delujemo po njihovi politiki, pa naj bo na oblasti leva ali desna opcija! Ista situacija se je ponovila ob občinskih razpisih, češ, da naša prijava ni v konceptu njihovih razpisov. Ko smo z dokazi ( mnenje antikorupcijske komisije) dali v javnost, da MOP v zvezi z razpisi, ki so namenjeni NVO kurupcisko deluje, odgovornim niti na misel ni padlo, da bi razveljavili razpis. Na denarno pomoč iz društev, ki jih združujemo ne moremo računati, saj imajo iste denarne probleme kot mi!

4) Spletno stran in blog sem naredil sam, ker se GREENSLO ne AAG ne moreta privoščiti profesionalne spletne strani!

5) Ali ste kdaj pomislili, da nam ponudili pomoč, glede popravila slovničnih napak, ker v naših vrstah žal nimamo slovista, ki bi jo z veseljem sprejeli!

Ker je nalažje biti kritizer in nič dejansko narediti za oklje, bodite vsaj toliko pošteni do nas, da napišeti svoje kritike ali predloge, lahko tudi brez podisa na naš blog. Obljubimo Vam, da jih ne bo nihšče zbrisal, saj smo odprti do vsake kritike na račun našega dela.

Naj na koncu še dodam, da bomo po vsej verjetnosti GREENSLO zaradi pomanjkanja finančnih sredstev razpustili in blog ter spletno stran umaknili s spleta! Tako ne boste imeli vzroka, da vas nekdo z slovnico in nepreglednimi spletnimi stranmi spravlja v slabo voljo, pa čedudi se boste zadušili v svojih lastnih odpadkih!!!

Vojko Bernard

p.s: Pod svoja stališča se še vedno upam podpisati!

Predragi:
koncno, koncno, smo prisli v raj, kjer volk in ovca spokojno zivita skupaj, kjer bodo slovenci belogradisti, pa rdecagardisti, pa argentinci, pa komunajzerji, pa stalinisti, pa crnuhi, pa…. prijateljevali skupaj.
Vsi bomo imeli stanovanja, pa brezplacno zdravstvo, pa solstvo, pa penzije, pa delo, pa nobenih davkov, pa…. Tako in tako pa sicer v raju narod zivi samo od blagega zraka in lepih melodij citer.
Ne bomo se vec zmerjali, pljuvali, ponizevali, oblepljali z vzdevki, skratka srali. Kajti v raju se samo smehljajo in tam se ritke hitro zarastejo, ker so tudi usta samo za petje pesmic, nic jesti.
Nobenih prijav dohodnin in davkov, kajti v raju smo vsi bogati bozje milosti, neobdavcene, brezplacne.
Koncno bo na bogoviziji in bogocajtnngih ena sama, vecno zvelicavna resnica.
Vsi nam bodo zavidali, kajti grehi so nam oprosceni in lahko zacnemo znova.
Mi pa bomo zeleli v pekel, taki smo!
Raje se trdo kavsamo, kot sladko lizemo.

OBVESTILO ZA VSE : NA TVS 1 OB URI 20.45 , ODDAJA polemika
o aktualni problematiki plinskih terminalov v bližini naše obale….

Odaja naj bi bila zelo zanimiva za vse , ki jim ni vseeno v kakšnem okolju živijo, oziroma bolje povedano v kakšnem okolju nam OZEK INTERES KAPITALA, TO JE POSAMEZNIH POBUDNIKOV ,
dirigira da moramo sprejeti življenje in verjeti lažem, da je VSE O.K.
Seveda informacije na TV zaradi časovne omejitve bodo bolj skope, toda bolje to , kot nič.
Predvsem se gre za to ali plinske terminale potrebujemo ALI GRE SAMO ZA ENOSTRANSKI INTERES KAPITALA?
Zakaj nas italija ne želi vključiti v stateš. presojo vplivov na okolje?
Kljub vsem naporom , ki se vlaga , nas italijanska vlada popolnoma ignorira?
Vladi RS je zato Starman predlagal tožbo zoper Italijo na EU sodišču v Luxemburgu? Vendar je naša vlada v odhodu minuli četrtek to točko umaknila iz dnevnega reda, ZAKAJ? itd…
To bodo samo nekatera vprašanja .

Tako butasto razmišljajo tudi vse vlade ob jadranu, glej da se ne boš kopal sam še v bazenu in opazoval ribe v akvariju!

miran-u:
takle primitiven odgovor bi mi leta 1917 napisal kak prav tako zabit tip, ces, da ne bom opazoval Ziljske doline samo se iz aviona.
Pa 1945 tudi tak, ces da ne bom nakupoval v Trstu samo se z pasportom.
Pa 1947, ces da na CRESU ne bom govoril Hrvasko.
Cas pa tece dalje, amputacije pa tudi, bomo videli!
Kar pa se kopanja tice, pa tole, letos sem se kopal v CERVAKU in AROM-u! To pa niti slucajno ne ves kje je!
Ribe, postrvi, pa lovil v reki BASU.
Ko bomo Slovenci imeli ministrstvo za odnose z Italijo in Hrvasko in bo minister G. Jelincic, bom verjel v prihodnost slovenske obale.

miran-u:
slovenije s takimi pobalinskimi primitivci res ne!
Dvojka!!!

# miran pravi:
13. oktober, 2008 ob 19:00

za Petrovc!

No potem pa tudi ne rabiš Slovenije!

Zbogom za vedno!!!!

Miran ti si tipičen vzgojen komunjzer!

Za petrovca, se strinjam. na svetu ne bo nikoli raja (to sem že kdaj prebolel in torej sploh ne verjamem “revolucijam”, ki so samo za nevzgojene in necivilizirane bedake).
Ni mogoče imeti “razvoj” in elektriko in istočasno ne elektraren. tako je pač.
izbira je med vrnitvijo v srednji vek ali napredkom dokler gre (ker samo tako se lahko vzdržuje 6.800.000.000 preb.)

oz. “Če ne razmišljaš kot jaz, proč, drugače te zapodim jaz in zapolnim tvoj prostor z nekom ki ga jaz poznam” (poleg tega ti pokradem vse kar imaš, tako da postanem bolj bogat, ker sam pač sem le navaden komunajzerski lenuh).

Konec demokracije:
za Boga, ne mesaj Jedrskih elektrarn, komunizma in primitivcev.
Poglej, tudi jaz sem (bil) protestant-komunist, zelo deloven.
Vedno sem za strpen dialog razlicnih mnenj. Spostujem vsakega, ki razumno nasprotuje mojemu mnenju in to pricakujem od drugih.
Primitivci tega tipa so bili ze daljnega leta 1515 (priblizno), ko je skof Hren izgnal kakih 15.000
prebivalcev Oberkreina, protestantov, moja dezela, ki so bili sol naroda, ki je tu zivel. Tedaj je v Oberkreinu zivelo cca.:500.000 ljudi.
Taki metodi izgona intiligence so sledile se tri podobne do danasnjega dne.
Res je, ni mogoce imeti popolno izobilje vsega in cisto okolje. Mislim, da smo glede tega dosegli vrh. V bodoce se bomo morali marsicesa razumno odpovedati.

In torej vsako obdobje ima svoje radikalce, enkrat take drugič druge. Komunisti ste bili eni izmed tolikih radikalcev samo precej bolj divji in kruti.

# Nikolovski pravi:
14. oktober, 2008 ob 17:26

@ konec: ti si pa (za)res po(ne)srečen :D

Lepo napisano, odvisno iz katerega zornega kota gledaš.

konec demokracije pravi:
12. oktober, 2008 ob 18:18
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sanja, pa še to, zadnje dni po Sloveniji marsikateri “vsevedi neodvisni strokovnjak” (v resnici stari marksisti, ki pa se sramujejo povedati to na glas in se raje skrivajo za ideološkimi izmišljotinami) napovedujejo konec ZDA, njenega gospodarstva, “tako imenovanega kapitalizma” itd.
Poslušaj jih in potem, čez kakšen mesec ali spomladi preveri kaj se je uresničilo od tistega kar so napovedovali.

še enkrat več so bile moje napovedi pravilne!!!! kot tudi gledevolitev, glede Ljubljane, glede SLS itd.itd.itd,!!!!!!!

Najbolj smešno pa je, da zgleda, da so v krizi konec koncev največ zgubili ruski in arabski bogataši, ha, ha, ha, ha.

@konec
ne vem, zakaj bi bil tisti, ki napoveduje “konec v ZDA” stari marksist, ki se skriva za ideološkimi izmišljotinami. Najhujši “konec ZDA” se je pravzaprav že zgodil. Dejstvo je, da je nevidna roka trga dvignila srednji prst! Trg je padel na kolena in prosil državo za “bail out”. Ali ni to dovolj? In brez te odkupnine bi si nevidna roka trga, ki še vedno drži sredinec navzgor, le-tega lahko vtaknila tudi kamorkoli drugam. Tako da stanje, v katerem bodo ZDA spomladi, kot praviš, kakršno koli že bo, ne bi bilo enako brez te državne intervencije. Je res?

Glede volitev pa tvoje napovedi niso bile pravilne, napovedoval si zmago SDS.

sanja pravi:

15. oktober, 2008 ob 8:51
@konec
ne vem, zakaj bi bil tisti, ki napoveduje “konec v ZDA” stari marksist, ki se skriva za ideološkimi izmišljotinami. Najhujši “konec ZDA” se je pravzaprav že zgodil. Dejstvo je, da je nevidna roka trga dvignila srednji prst! Trg je padel na kolena in prosil državo za “bail out”. Ali ni to dovolj? In brez te odkupnine bi si nevidna roka trga, ki še vedno drži sredinec navzgor, le-tega lahko vtaknila tudi kamorkoli drugam. Tako da stanje, v katerem bodo ZDA spomladi, kot praviš, kakršno koli že bo, ne bi bilo enako brez te državne intervencije. Je res?

ZDA bodo prebolele finančno krizo in ko bodo propadle bodo, kot vsi veliki in pomembni imperiji , propadle od “znotraj”, notranje težave in spremembe bodo razlogi (Obama je lahko prvi pomemben znak propada, lahko, srčno upam pa, da se motim).

Glede volitev pa tvoje napovedi niso bile pravilne, napovedoval si zmago SDS.

Ne laži, poišči en sam post kjer sem napovedal SDS zmago, jez sem pravil da bo balkanski (kulturno mišljeno) del populacije odločal in da bodo odločilni pri zmagi rdečuhov tisti predeli , kjer je bilo priseljevanjev komunističnem obdobju iz Balkan najbolj intenzivno (LJ in obala).

Sanja:
zelo resno citam tvoje globokoumne tvoritve po vseh straneh tega casopisa.
Sedaj si udarila, se propad USA! O, kaj nas se caka! Pa kar preko Bozjega prsta! To pa ni vec hec.
Ker zaupam tvojim analizam politike, zgodovine, ekonomije, tehnike in koncno tudi kuhinje.
In jemljem jih zelo resno, ker sem sam bolj zabit hribovc, kratkih nog in vampast!
A bi mi prosim brezplacno, ce se da, povedala, kdaj bo razpadel ta imperij zla, kot pravis, da bom doma malo napolnil hladilnik s krompirjem in cebulo. Pa kaj mislis, bi tud kako klobaso not zarinil? Saj ves, mi hribovci mamo radi ob kakem prekucu poln hladen hladilnik in toplo rit.

Sanja:
se ves, mi hribovci smo se marskej naucl! Tko da so en aprila 45 se h hekenkreutzem skakal po dolin, 09.05.45 pa s srpom in kvadvom strsl po hribh, da da so en 85 s rdecem knizcam strasil po hribih, 95 pa s krizi v procesijah po dolin.
Pa m je tale Konec demokracije mal sumljiv, ankol ne ves, kam bo vsekal.
Mam raje marijo s prstom pokonc!
Jo mam pred hiso nabito na tepko, pa namazano s terom, da jo ponoc psi ne lizejo. Tm hodm molt, pa mav za prihodnost sprasujem. Sam je decva bl mrzla, koze so toplejse, ce das se noge v skorne pa sploh, se toplo tece od njh, tko je na kmeth.
Pa se m je zdev, da si ti z dvignjenim prstom in bozjo besedo, pa se topla, bolsa, pa se kozji efekt zraven dobim.
A na spomvad pravs!?
No, hvala, t, sm vedu, da ste uvidevn do nas hribovcev! Takrat bomo pa ze vhko tud mav travo jedl pa kislco, pa mleck, pa veje glodal. Nam na kmeth tud hudic ne more do zivga. Sam Podobnka se bojimo!
To pa nkar, sanja, mi na kmeth se pa Sodome pa Gomore ne gremo! Mamo koze, pa jih lohk v skornh, pa krave, pa jh lohk na prucc, pa svine, k jh lohk kr na dek. Obcasn tud kaka iz doline pride, turistka, z mesta, pa jo prevrnemo na senu. Sam je s temi bl efekt leve roke.Sj ves, ta prav efekt vsh decev je desna roka.
Tople vode pa nimamo, ni treba, sam mrzla je dost. Tud skreta iz porcelana nimamo, ker ce mi scijeo, poc skolka.

sanja, prej ne bo več Slovenije na zemljevidu kot ZDA popolnoma uničene - o tem ne imet dvoma.

Petrovc, tudi tebi predlagam, da zapustiš vest.si, ker bo postalo res nevarno za drugače-misleče. Ne bi želel, da ti bodo “sodili”, ker nisi dovolj rdeč , namreč prihaja obdobje največje “svobode” , kjer zares svobodomiselni so na oblasti, ha, ha, ha, ha,. .

Petrovc, ok imaš prav. Načelni ljudje imajo vedno prav.
Imej se lepo in veliko sreče.
Živijo!

Petrovc, Achtung! Domači šnops vsebuje prevelike količine metanola. Pa saj je tudi tisti iz štacune v redu. Verjemi, ga pogosto probam :)))

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