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5. julij 2009 ob 18:07 | Vest |

Dopisovanje Jamesa Joycea in Nore Barnacle. Katja Buda in Jure Godler.

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  1. kaktus pravi:

    Ko SEM DANES V ŠALI POBARAL NEKE MLADENIČE, DA IMA JANŠA LEPO IM MLADO ŽENO, JE EDEN IZBRUHNIL, UBIT GA BI BILO POTREBNO ! Vidite, to je rezultat vzgoje, razširjanja kulture smrti od nastopa kumunizma, do danes ! To je bil mlad lovec, nosilec orožja !

  2. bronjo pravi:

    Kaktus, da ni to posledica predolgega piskanja na frulo?

  3. bronjo pravi:

    Prepričan sem, da kaktus ni pogledal prispevka in tako niti ne ve, da ni govora o Janezu. Ta prekleta šmarnica…

  4. BB pravi:

    Tale Joyce je bil pa perverzen fant :) dober prispevek

  5. MEFISTO pravi:

    KAKTUS se je sicer zmotil in zamenjal stran, vendar pa vsebina njegovega komentarja spada prav na vsako stran.

    Govori namreč o sovraštvu do drugače politično misečih, ki ga je vsadila tako imenovana levica v mnoge naivne ljudi.

    Ko se tako vcepljeno sovraštvo dotakne oboroženih in nepremišljenih ljudi lahko postane zelo nevarno.

  6. Carlos Contreras pravi:

    Ja, ja, James Joyce. Kaktus, sicer močno zaskrbljen za usodo kulture in korenin, verjetno ni še nikoli slišal zanj.

  7. Nikolovski pravi:

    jah Mefisto… in po tem kar si napisu si ti levičar do amena, kajti sam redno spodbujaš k sovraštvu do drugače politično misečih…

  8. ProPolis pravi:

    po irskem, poskusite še dolenjsko:
    http://rajc.blog.siol.net/

  9. krucefiks pravi:

    “Govori namreč o sovraštvu do drugače politično misečih, ki ga je vsadila tako imenovana levica v mnoge naivne ljudi.”

    Pa kake klatiš. Ko so pretepli Blažiča, kaktus ni skakal v luft, ker je šlo za nasilje, ampak je trdil, da je Blažič problematičen osebek, ker kamorkoli gre, ga napadejo.

    Po tej logiki je problematičen tudi sam JJ, ker ga je tisti mladenič hotel kar prebunkati. Vidiš, kako perverzna je ta logika? Ne vidiš. Ker si “farben blind”.

  10. ProPolis pravi:

    Madona, še ko je govor o seksu, perverznosti, nasladi, erotiki, porivanju, joških in pizdah in kurcih ter literatih nekateri ne zmorete brez politike. Grozljivo. James Joyce ruls!

  11. Zbik pravi:

    Par pripomb:
    1) Imam rahlo alergijo na besede podzavest, podzavestno etc. Nezavedno je cool. (na 1:07).

    2) Julien Sorel z angleško izgovorjavo je povsem netematiziran. Ne vidim razloga, zakaj ne izpeljati v originalu, v francoski izgovorjavi. Celo slovenska “Julijan Sorel” bi bila boljša. Katja, naključno? Spodrslaj? (na 1:17)

    3) Bi bilo čisto luštno, če bi ob Godlerjevih slovenskih recitacijah s spuščenimi gatami “tekel” po videu angleški original, tako za kvazi simetrijo z začetnimi sekvencami.

    4) Godlerjevi brki so super, xexe ;)

  12. Zbik pravi:

    In za tiste, ki bi radi hiter skok k originalom, dve povezavi (ki sta trenutno še živi):

    http://www.johnhamilton.us/2/jamesjoyceletters.htm

    http://loveletters.tribe.net/thread/fce72385-b146-4bf2-9d2e-0dfa6ac7142d

  13. Andrej K. pravi:

    Zbik, hvala za konstruktivne pripombe. Sorelski spodrsljaji se pač zgodijo; strinjam se tudi, da bi bilo sekvencam mogoče dodati še marsikaj. A pri vsakem delu je enkrat treba narediti “rez”. Linki pa prispevek še obogatijo.

  14. bp pravi:

    K temu klobučku bi res pasale samo nogavice.

  15. dyboc pravi:

    @Zbik

    Podzavestno in nezavedno ni eno in isto…

  16. Zbik pravi:

    Dyboc, seveda ta dva termina ni uporabljati sinonimno. Jaz sem avtorjem zgolj namignil, da bi bilo bolje uporabljati “nezavedno”, kot to uporablja ljubljanska šola teoretske psihoanalize in še kdo. Na hitro povedano, ko laiki rečejo podzavest, temu reče stroka “nezavedno”. Kot lahko prebereš v angleškem geslu “subconscious”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subconscious

    se je oče pshoanalize že leta 1915 jezil nad uporabo izraza podzavest (das Unterbewusste, the subconscious). Nemci v svoji wikipediji šli še dlje: geslo “Das Unterbewusste” so enostavno izpustili in imajo samo “Das Unbewusste”, kjer pravijo, da se v pogovornem jeziku uporablja tudi izraz “Unterbewusste”)

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Unbewusste

    Pri svojem prvem posegu nisem hotel v detajle razlagati, upam da je zdaj bolj jasno ZAKAJ sem tako svetoval.

  17. Carlos Contreras pravi:

    Hm, Godler, a se ti ne zdi, da bi Joyce govoril z irskim, ne pa z angleškim naglasom?

  18. dfsfdfzzz pravi:

    Všeč mi je. Od razsekanosti pisem in komentarjev do improviziranih brkov.

    :))

  19. NoMercy pravi:

    heh … itak gre pri JJ samo za to, da nekam sploh lahko napiše, kar ni šlo takrat v knjige.
    Bi bilo fino, če bi nam dovolili pisati tako tudi na netu.
    ———————–
    Katja pa še zmeram gleda kot, da ga še ni fasala :P

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