Perverzna pisma JJ
5. julij 2009 ob 18:07 | Vest |Dopisovanje Jamesa Joycea in Nore Barnacle. Katja Buda in Jure Godler.
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5. julij, 2009 ob 18:45
Ko SEM DANES V ŠALI POBARAL NEKE MLADENIČE, DA IMA JANŠA LEPO IM MLADO ŽENO, JE EDEN IZBRUHNIL, UBIT GA BI BILO POTREBNO ! Vidite, to je rezultat vzgoje, razširjanja kulture smrti od nastopa kumunizma, do danes ! To je bil mlad lovec, nosilec orožja !
5. julij, 2009 ob 18:56
Kaktus, da ni to posledica predolgega piskanja na frulo?
5. julij, 2009 ob 18:57
Prepričan sem, da kaktus ni pogledal prispevka in tako niti ne ve, da ni govora o Janezu. Ta prekleta šmarnica…
5. julij, 2009 ob 19:06
Tale Joyce je bil pa perverzen fant :) dober prispevek
5. julij, 2009 ob 19:14
KAKTUS se je sicer zmotil in zamenjal stran, vendar pa vsebina njegovega komentarja spada prav na vsako stran.
Govori namreč o sovraštvu do drugače politično misečih, ki ga je vsadila tako imenovana levica v mnoge naivne ljudi.
Ko se tako vcepljeno sovraštvo dotakne oboroženih in nepremišljenih ljudi lahko postane zelo nevarno.
5. julij, 2009 ob 19:23
Ja, ja, James Joyce. Kaktus, sicer močno zaskrbljen za usodo kulture in korenin, verjetno ni še nikoli slišal zanj.
5. julij, 2009 ob 19:24
jah Mefisto… in po tem kar si napisu si ti levičar do amena, kajti sam redno spodbujaš k sovraštvu do drugače politično misečih…
5. julij, 2009 ob 21:39
po irskem, poskusite še dolenjsko:
http://rajc.blog.siol.net/
6. julij, 2009 ob 8:08
“Govori namreč o sovraštvu do drugače politično misečih, ki ga je vsadila tako imenovana levica v mnoge naivne ljudi.”
Pa kake klatiš. Ko so pretepli Blažiča, kaktus ni skakal v luft, ker je šlo za nasilje, ampak je trdil, da je Blažič problematičen osebek, ker kamorkoli gre, ga napadejo.
Po tej logiki je problematičen tudi sam JJ, ker ga je tisti mladenič hotel kar prebunkati. Vidiš, kako perverzna je ta logika? Ne vidiš. Ker si “farben blind”.
6. julij, 2009 ob 9:28
Madona, še ko je govor o seksu, perverznosti, nasladi, erotiki, porivanju, joških in pizdah in kurcih ter literatih nekateri ne zmorete brez politike. Grozljivo. James Joyce ruls!
6. julij, 2009 ob 10:53
Par pripomb:
1) Imam rahlo alergijo na besede podzavest, podzavestno etc. Nezavedno je cool. (na 1:07).
2) Julien Sorel z angleško izgovorjavo je povsem netematiziran. Ne vidim razloga, zakaj ne izpeljati v originalu, v francoski izgovorjavi. Celo slovenska “Julijan Sorel” bi bila boljša. Katja, naključno? Spodrslaj? (na 1:17)
3) Bi bilo čisto luštno, če bi ob Godlerjevih slovenskih recitacijah s spuščenimi gatami “tekel” po videu angleški original, tako za kvazi simetrijo z začetnimi sekvencami.
4) Godlerjevi brki so super, xexe ;)
6. julij, 2009 ob 10:58
In za tiste, ki bi radi hiter skok k originalom, dve povezavi (ki sta trenutno še živi):
http://www.johnhamilton.us/2/jamesjoyceletters.htm
http://loveletters.tribe.net/thread/fce72385-b146-4bf2-9d2e-0dfa6ac7142d
6. julij, 2009 ob 11:25
Zbik, hvala za konstruktivne pripombe. Sorelski spodrsljaji se pač zgodijo; strinjam se tudi, da bi bilo sekvencam mogoče dodati še marsikaj. A pri vsakem delu je enkrat treba narediti “rez”. Linki pa prispevek še obogatijo.
6. julij, 2009 ob 12:47
K temu klobučku bi res pasale samo nogavice.
7. julij, 2009 ob 9:59
@Zbik
Podzavestno in nezavedno ni eno in isto…
7. julij, 2009 ob 15:37
Dyboc, seveda ta dva termina ni uporabljati sinonimno. Jaz sem avtorjem zgolj namignil, da bi bilo bolje uporabljati “nezavedno”, kot to uporablja ljubljanska šola teoretske psihoanalize in še kdo. Na hitro povedano, ko laiki rečejo podzavest, temu reče stroka “nezavedno”. Kot lahko prebereš v angleškem geslu “subconscious”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subconscious
se je oče pshoanalize že leta 1915 jezil nad uporabo izraza podzavest (das Unterbewusste, the subconscious). Nemci v svoji wikipediji šli še dlje: geslo “Das Unterbewusste” so enostavno izpustili in imajo samo “Das Unbewusste”, kjer pravijo, da se v pogovornem jeziku uporablja tudi izraz “Unterbewusste”)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Unbewusste
Pri svojem prvem posegu nisem hotel v detajle razlagati, upam da je zdaj bolj jasno ZAKAJ sem tako svetoval.
7. julij, 2009 ob 16:11
Hm, Godler, a se ti ne zdi, da bi Joyce govoril z irskim, ne pa z angleškim naglasom?
7. julij, 2009 ob 19:28
Všeč mi je. Od razsekanosti pisem in komentarjev do improviziranih brkov.
:))
9. julij, 2009 ob 13:14
heh … itak gre pri JJ samo za to, da nekam sploh lahko napiše, kar ni šlo takrat v knjige.
Bi bilo fino, če bi nam dovolili pisati tako tudi na netu.
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Katja pa še zmeram gleda kot, da ga še ni fasala :P
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