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8. junij 2009 ob 10:00 | Jani Sever |

Zmaga SDS je najpomembnejše sporočilo volitev. Potem so tu še Lojze Peterle, LDS in Gregor Golobič. Ostali so imeli več težav. Desus ne gre v Bruselj, SNS in SLS sta beležili slaba rezultata. Udeležba je bila pričakovano izjemno nizka.

SDS je velika zmagovalka. Ne zaradi števila poslancev. Tu, zaradi volilnega sistema, česar Janša po volitvah ni pozabil omeniti, SDS dobiva samo poslanca in poslanko v Bruslju. Enako kot SD. A razlika v rezultatu je zelo velika. Skoraj 27 odstotkov glasov za SDS proti 18,5 odstotka SD. Skoraj 9 odstotna razlika med prvo vladno in najmočnejšo opozicijsko stranko je preveč, da bi SD lahko razglašala svoje zadovoljstvo z rezultatom. Janša pravi, da gre za opozorilo volilnega telesa vladi in njenemu ravnanju. In ima seveda prav. Z nekaj opombami. Kajti SDS včeraj ni edina slavila.

Veselje je bilo menda najbolj bučno v NSi, ki je proslavljala uspeh Lojzeta Peterleta. A zdi se, da precej neupravičeno. Lojze Peterle bi skoraj zagotovo v Bruselj odšel tudi kot neodvisni kandidat za evroposlanca. Čeprav je bil njegov rezultat tokrat nekoliko nižji. Za NSi to ne pomeni veliko, oziroma pomeni tako rekoč nič. Izkušnje namreč učijo, da evroposlanci svojim strankam ne koristijo na domačih parlamentarnih volitvah. Tako NSi še naprej ostaja brez Peterleta in v situaciji, ki se ni prav nič spremenila. Izvenparlamentarna stranka, za katero se zdi, da svojega pravega voditelja, raje drži na distanci.

Z včerajšnjimi volitvami so poleg simpatizerjev SDS lahko zadovoljni tudi liberalci. LDS in Zares sta skupaj dosegli zelo lep rezultat. Nekaj čez dvajset odstotkov so za evropske liberalce precej visoki odstotki. Ne glede na to, da sta jih pridelali dve stranki in da sta njuna izkupička dovolj uravnotežena, kar pomeni, da je liberalno volilno telo precej ostro razklano. No, ravno zaradi tega, ker sta tako zelo izenačeni, se lahko veselita obe stranki. Nekoliko bolj LDS, ki je (v manjši meri kot NSi zaradi Petrleta, dosegla kar je, zaradi Jelka Kacina), ki je svoj domet od zadnjih volitev povečala za kakih 100 odstotkov.

Zares je za LDS zaostal. Ampak rezultat je za stranko kljub vsemu soliden. Dobila je poslanca in dosegla podobno podporo kot na parlamentarnih volitvah. Kar bi bilo v vsakem primeru povsem OK. V situaciji, ko je predsednik stranke, teden dni pred volitvami, postal prava medijska antizvezda, je njen uspeh skorajda presenetljiv. Volilno telo Zares se je očitno v veliki meri odločilo podpreti stranko, ne glede na afero. To Gregorju Golobiču omogoča razmislek o tem, da ostane v politiki, hkrati pa predsedniku vlade dodatno otežuje, da bi ga enostavno odslovil iz svoje ministrske ekipe.

O poražencih nima smisla veliko govoriti. Vsi se strinjajo, da je največji poraz prav volilna udeležba. Poraz za evropsko demokracijo. Udeležba na volitvah v evroparlament namreč vztrajno pada. Ne le v Sloveniji. Ob tem je najbolj zaskrbljujoče, da ne gre za presenečenje in da lahko napovemo, da bo na naslednjih volitvah udeležba skorajda zagotovo še nižja. A kaj bi to. Evro poslanke in poslanci morajo biti in nek način moramo imeti, da jih izvolimo. Drugače pa je EU tako ali tako predvsem birokratsko tehnokratska država, ki neposredne demokracije ne potrebuje ravno nujno, ampak je pomembno, da do rešitev prihaja preko mehanizmov raznih predstavniških inštrumentov.

Sloveniji pogled skozi optiko evrovolitev kljub temu prinaša zanimivo izkušnjo. Slovenski politični prostor se skozi evrovolitve dodatno racionalizira in postaja pregleden. Volilni kolač si razdelijo konservativci, socialdemokrati in liberalci. Tokrat glede na poslance, ki so jih dobili, v razmerju 3, 2, 2. Za druge, praktično tu v Sloveniji ni prostora. Kar je nekoliko nenavadno. V drugih evroopskih državah, ga je namreč vedno več.

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  1. NoMercy pravi:

    levo od sredine in desno od sredine je rezultat 4:3 :P
    pa mir bo pred Milanom in Lojzetom :D

  2. Nogavička pravi:

    Če ga pa pri Zelenih Jarc biksa, sinonim za zelene pa pohajkuje pri mladincih ;)

  3. Nogavička pravi:

    … no, Jančiču, po vsem tem, pa čestitam za pogumen korak.

  4. NoMercy pravi:

    o bog … Ljudmilo nam bodo vrnili v SLO :P

  5. Mirjana pravi:

    Kakorkoli obrnemo je udeležba edini indic stanja v naši lepi domovinici.Nič za to,…pomnei, da nismo vsi ovčke… novinarjem pa priporočam, da te naše EU poslance neprestano kontrolirajo, …jim sledijo…kaj so naredili, kaj od obljubljenega počno,…in na kraju jim bo še žal, da so bili izvoljeni…svojo plačico si bodo morali namreč zaslužiti:))

  6. DragicaJ pravi:

    Volilno telo Zares se je očitno v veliki meri odločilo podpreti stranko, ne glede na afero. To Gregorju Golobiču omogoča razmislek o tem, da ostane v politiki, hkrati pa predsedniku vlade dodatno otežuje, da bi ga enostavno odslovil iz svoje ministrske ekipe.
    ————
    to pomeni samo to, da imamo v Sloveniji toliko in toliko ljudi, ki nagrajujejo laž in klientelizem.

    Drugače pa je članek dokaj profesionalen in se lahko z večino komentarja strinjam. Avtorja je rahlo zanesle le v delu ko pripisuje večino zaslug dobrega rezultata NSi Peterletu, nasprotno pa pri rezultatu LDS-a zmanjšuje zasluge J.Kacina.

  7. ProPolis pravi:

    Glede NSI se ne strinjam glede tona zgodbe. Meni se njihovo veselje zdi povsem upravičeno. Je pač stranka, ki jo gor povleče Peterle. Pa? Tako kot je NSi izgubljena brez Peterleta, je tudi SDS brezglava brez Janše, Zares brez Golobiča, SNS brez Jelinčiča. Ni posebnega. Verjamem, da če bi bile državnozborske volitve in bi NSI v ospredje postavila Peterleta, bi tudi dobila kar nekaj glasov. Z Bajukom se pač res ni moglo iziti drugače, kakor se je. Predvsem pa jim ta uspeh zagotavlja nekaj boljšo klimo v stranki, položaj v evro parlamentu, nastavek za promocijske aktivnosti …, kar pa ni vnemar.

  8. lucko pravi:

    DragicaJ, na katerem planetu pa ti zivis?

  9. medek pravi:

    http://www.mladina.si/images/novice/trbovlje_botjan_pihler.jpg

    Kaj pa fotografski natečaj o onesnaženosti Slovenije?

  10. medek pravi:

    Jaz sem pričakoval še boljše rezultate za “levico” :)

    A če se še moji famijliji , ki mora prenašati “zelenega radikalca” , ni dalo na volitve. Sem moral iti sam.

    No, ker me ni bilo doma, je medtem moj dragi janšistični sorodnik moji mami skoraj opral možgane z “golobičevimi kaselci”. To je bilo smeha. Ker groza je že minila.

  11. Neja pravi:

    JJ je izrabil razglasitve volitev za ponavljanje svojih manter, čeprav rezultat po mojem pomeni samo:
    -bolj discipliniran odhod na volišče pristašev SDS in NSi
    -bolj realno porazdelitev glasov na levi strani
    -podporo posameznim kandidatom ne strankam
    -malodušje in brezbrižnost do volitev zaradi nezavedanja pomena, življenjskih razmer, protesta do politike in politikov…

  12. NoMercy pravi:

    po SDS štetju (kdo je kje in da so vsi isti) je SDS pušnila z 2:4 (Lojze je zgodba za sebe :P )

  13. medek pravi:

    Nacionalka RTV(Granata d.o.o.) v resnih skrbeh:
    http://www.rtvslo.si/evropske-volitve/kako-se-delijo-mandati-za-ep/204764

    Mnogi se sprašujejo, kako je SDS-u z več kot 26 odstotki podpore uspelo dobiti le dva mandata, Zaresu z 9,8 odstotki enega, DeSUS-u s 7,2 odstotka pa nobenega.

  14. konec pravi:

    # NoMercy pravi:
    8. junij, 2009 ob 10:21

    levo od sredine in desno od sredine je rezultat 4:3 :P
    pa mir bo pred Milanom in Lojzetom :D

    Evropski parlament:

    rdečihi ( komunajzerji +socialisti +social-demokrati +….)= 182
    konservtivci sami (brez angleških konservativcev - in brez desničarskih strank = 267

    zmage štejejo … pa dober fuk :P

    ha, ha, ha,
    PRVI NA BALKANU ZADNJI V EVROPI!!!!
    ha, ha, ha - pa mir z našimi komunajzerji

    http://www.elections2009-results.eu/sl/index_sl.html

  15. NoMercy pravi:

    @konec: emmm … kam se šteje SDS v EP ??

  16. konec pravi:

    med konservativce (EPP), tako, da bodo 3 ogromno bolj pomembni in upoštevani od ostalih 4….

  17. Manitou pravi:

    Strinjam se z NoMercy. Največja katastrofa teh volitev ni nizka volilna udeležba niti zmaga SDS, ampak to, da dobimo nazaj Ljudmilo.

  18. NoMercy pravi:

    @konec: in kako lahko razen s prevaro Social Demokrati padejo med konzervativce :D

  19. Nogavička pravi:

    konec ima svojo zabavno teorijo o “socialistih” Musoliniju in Hitlerju ;)

  20. NoMercy pravi:

    pri kateri od svojih koruznic je šel JJ na volišče?? pri prejšnji ali sedanji??

  21. konec pravi:

    tudi ateista sta bila…..pa tiho, da se na Balkanu ne zve….

  22. Nogavička pravi:

    Sem pa tja pokukam tudi k medijskemu:

    http://medijski.blog.siol.net/2009/06/01/afera-socius-praprotnikov-odgovor-mozini/
    http://medijski.blog.siol.net/2009/05/30/afera-socius-mozina-odgovarja-praprotniku/

  23. Rajko pravi:

    Voliti bi morali preko interneta in bi udeležba zagotovo bila višja - seveda z vsemi možnimi varnostnimi ukrepi…

  24. Nogavička pravi:

    Estonci so nam lahko v svetel vzgled.

  25. bronjo pravi:

    konec, glede dobrega fuka bi ti Carlos Contreras znal kaj povedati. :P

  26. NoMercy pravi:

    @ Nogavička: in kaj za boga milega delaš tukaj in še nisi v Estoniji???

  27. MiiR pravi:

    res mi ni jasno, kako to, da se že cel dan pojavljajo komentarji na račun uspeha NSi v smislu, da je ravno Peterle povzročil tak porast rejtinga te stranke? Peterle je znotraj glasov volilcev, ki so volili NSi, dobil okoli 56 % glasov na svoj preferenčni glas. Jelko Kacin je na preferenčni glas prinesel LDS-u skoraj 70 % vseh glasov.

    Kako to potlej, da je LDS dosegla “v manjši meri” volilni rezultat kot NSI na račun svojega kandidata?

  28. nesesekirat pravi:

    Če gledaš plačo 7000€ mesečno, imamo sedem nedvoumnih zmagovalcev volitev (koliko od tega morajo odstopiti stranki je njihova interna stvar). In imena zmagovalcev nam pravijo, da na evrovolitvah prevladujejo bolj imena kot stranke (izjemi sta SDS in nekaj manj ZL).
    In kakor obračaš rezultate volitev, dejstvo je, da so vladne stranke dobile 4 mandate, parlamentarna opozicija pa 2 + Peterle iz neparlamentarne stranke, stranke, ki bo, zagotovo, krepko premislila, predno se bo ponovno predala na milost in nemilost Janši.

  29. zirosi pravi:

    Zmagali smo mi, katerim se še ni skisalo od politikanstva in sploh nismo šli na volitve. Mi predstavljamo večino, ki bo ob pravem času enkrat za vselej opravila s klukci, ki mislijo, da nam lahko vladajo.

  30. sovka pravi:

    V Sloveniji imamo ljudji , ki lažejo mnogo bolj kot g. Golobič, njihove laži pa so škodljive za nas davkoplačevalce, saj kradejo na vseh koncih , mi ostali ki živimo pošteno, pa plačujemo vse njihove svinjarije.

    Golobič, je pravno čist, če se pa javnost ne more napajati z njegovimi privatnimi stvarmi , pa kaj potem. So kot zgoraj povedano laži, ki jih mi nosimo na svojih ramenih.

  31. NoMercy pravi:

    kdo med izvoljenimi ima vsaj toliko pod palcem, da bo ostale lahko peljal na kavo in sladoled - na osrednjem Bruseljskem trgu je to svinsko drago :P

  32. Primož pravi:

    Samo malo drugače bi se razporedili glasovi na volitvah, pa bi levica dobila samo 2 mandata, desnica pa kar 5.
    http://zlopamtilo.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/povolilna-aritmetika-evropskih-volitev-popolnoma-zgresena-taktika-sds/

  33. medek pravi:

    Neverjetnih 217 dolarjev na Zemljana: Svetovni vojaški izdatki so v letu 2008 dosegli nov rekord
    http://www.dnevnik.si/novice/svet/1042272742

  34. Tilenovski pravi:

    Kdaj bomo že dočakali, da bomo v SLoveniji LDS in ZARES uvrščali tja, kamor spadata: med socialiste. Z liberalizmom nimata kaj dosti skupnega!

  35. butalec pravi:

    Volilna udeležba je pokazala, da je velika poraženka teh volitev EU, saj več kot polovica upravičencev sploh ni prišla na volitve. Strinjam se tudi z JJ, da je to streznitveni signal za vladajočo koalicijo v Sloveniji, predvsem za Borata. Upam, da bo sedaj spoznal, da mu ljudje ne zaupajo predvsem zato, ker z JJ paktira, na pa se z njim bori za blagostanje Slovenije. Ko se bo začel z njim boriti, sem prepričan, da bo volilna udeležba na volitvah veliko večja. Takrat bodo prišli volilci oddat svoj glas kot pomoč v borbi proti politiki JJ, kot sedaj hodijo oddat svoj glas proti politiki BP..

  36. ED pravi:

    Slovenski desnaki so (glede na do zdaj preštete glasove) popušili še na ‘evropskih’ volitvah. V prejšnjem sklicu EU-parlamenta so imeli 4, zdaj imajo 3 poslance. Levica, ki je imela prej 3, ima zdaj 4. Ampak seveda, desnake hebe matematika, v sled tega se tolažijo z nebulozami, da so zmagali. Za njih je očitno 3 več kot 4. Ponavlja se zgodba s proračunom za 2007. Čeprav je bil evidentiran proračunski primanjkljaj (kar je potrdila tudi revizija), janševiki trdijo, da gre za presežek in da je bila (zato) prejšnja vlada najboljša vlada. Hahahaha… Tudi če seštejemo glasove vseh volivcev, volivk, ki so glasovali na ‘evropskih volitvah’, se izkaže, da desnaki niso zmagali, pač pa da so levica in desnaki praktično izenačeni. Če se sešteje glasove $D$, NSi, SLS, SNS na eni ter glasove SD, Zares, LDS, Desusu, Krščanskih socialistov, SMS na drugi strani, se dobi (glede na do zdaj preštete glasove) seštevek ca. 49,5% na obeh straneh. Je zanimivo, da je SMS, ki je na listo uvrstila tudi kandidata, ki je deklariran homosexualec, in pa tujca (iz Sudana), dobila le 1% manj kot SNS. No, nemara je olajševalna okoliščina za SNS ta, da se volivcem, volivkam te stranke sladko hebe za EU in je rezultat SNS zato nekoliko slabši. Povedano drugače: rezultati, doseženi na evropskih volitvah, ne odražajo nujno situacije na slo-politični sceni. To se vidi tudi iz primera Alojza Oglejskega – Peterleta, katerega rezultat zagotovo ne odraža trenutne politične ‘teže’ stranke, na listi katere je kandidiral.

    Kakorkoli že, fakt je, da so desnaki popušili cigaru. He! He! Levica je zmagovalka tudi, če seštejemo glasove, ki so ji prejele le parlamentarne stranke. Tako so $D$, SLS, SNS skupaj prejele ca. 34% glasov, medtem ko so koalicijske stranke prejele ca. 47%. Zmaga levice je sladka. In po svoje nepričakovana. Gre za to, da v RS, takrat ko je glasovalna udeležba izredno nizka, ponavadi zmagujejo predlogi, pobude, ideje, kandidati desnosučnih strank. Vsaj tako gre sklepati na podlagi referendumov, ki se jih ponavadi ne udeleži več kot tretjina volivcev. Te referendume so največkrat ‘zbobnali’ desnaki in na njih je potem drla predvsem motivirana in disciplinirana množica častilcev lika Ve-se-koga. Ali pa so se odpravljali na referendume sledeč živalskemu instinktu, preoblečenem v domoljubje ali raznorazna ‘moralna’ pregrinjala. Kljub temu, da je volilna udeležba bila izredno nizka (menda je bila udeležba v RS ena najnižjih v EU), je levica zmagala. Liberalni blok (LDS, Zares) je obdržal procente in število poslancev v EU-parlamentu, medtem ko je SD izboljšala rezultat v primerjavi s prvimi EU-volitvami za ca. 5 % in za enega poslancem več.

    Zadeva pa je skrb zbujajoča na EU ravni. Tam so zmagali desnaki. Glasovi na desni so se menda povečali tako tistim desnakom, ki so ‘evro-skeptični’, kot tistim, ki so ‘evrofili’. Zmaga desnakov na EU-ravni skrbi zato, ker to zelo verjetno pomeni manj človekovih pravic (tako socialnih za ‘Evropejce’ kot civilnih, političnih, socialnih, kulturnih za priseljence, imigrante, prosilce za azil ipd.), hkrati pa zmaga desnakov (lahko) pomeni blagoslavljanje zahtev desničarskih vlad v državah članicah, ki furajo nacional-egoizem in ki težijo k (ekonomskemu) protekcionizmu. Naj spomnim na nedavne nebuloze Sarkozya, češ da bi npr. Renault moral zapreti podjetja v tujini in preseliti proizvodnjo v Francijo. Takšno razmišljanje vodi v logiko ‘protekcionizma vseh proti vsem’ in lahko ima svoj ‘odmev’(ne brez posledic) tudi v razmišljanju desnakarske večine v EU-parlamentu. Z ‘več’ desnaki pa se bo v EU-parlamentu verjetno dvignil tudi nivo populizma, saj ne gre spregledati, da današnji tip desnaka ni tip npr. Helmuta Kohla, pač pa klovnovski tip a la Berlusconi ali tip že omenjenega Sarkozya.

  37. silvom pravi:

    Kdaj bomo že dočakali, da bomo v SLoveniji LDS in ZARES uvrščali tja, kamor spadata: med socialiste. Z liberalizmom nimata kaj dosti skupnega!

    Tale je pa res dobra - “med socialiste” . Stranki imata prav toliko z liberalizmom kot s socializmom oziroma nič !
    Dvojni nateg - nategujejo nas in evropski parlament …

  38. konec pravi:

    # Tilenovski pravi:
    8. junij, 2009 ob 15:30

    Kdaj bomo že dočakali, da bomo v SLoveniji LDS in ZARES uvrščali tja, kamor spadata: med socialiste. Z liberalizmom nimata kaj dosti skupnega!

    PRAV TO JE NAJBOLJ ŽALOSTNO, NAJBOLJ TRDI RDEČUHI SE SKRIVAJO ZA NAJBOLJ TRDNIM LIBERALIZMOM….

    Slovenija ima dve posebnosti : 1: zgoraj omenjena 2. nacionalist jelinčič oboževalec komunističnega diktatorja…

    Ni smešno, mar ne?

  39. medek pravi:

    “V letih 2002-2007 smo v Sloveniji pozidali skoraj 20 tisoč hektarjev zemljišč, od tega 65 odstotkov kmetijskih. Na dan pozidamo enajst oziroma sedem hektarjev kmetijskih površin. Slovenija ima na prebivalca le še 880 kvadratnih metrov njiv in vrtov, Evropska unija pa 2545 kvadratnih metrov,” so pred kratkim objavili v Večeru. Ob teh podatkih se postavlja vprašanje, koliko časa bomo še imeli njive za lastno pridelavo hrane.

    Na ministrstvu za kmetijstvo so za razgledi.net pojasnili, da se največ kmetijskih zemljišč pozida za avtoceste (3. razvojna os), za industrijska oziroma gospodarska središča (gospodarsko središče Feniks blizu Brežic recimo stoji na približno 300 hektarih zemljišč), za logistične centre v okviru državnih prostorskih načrtov (za logistični center Luke Koper v Beltincih je bilo pozidanih približno 100 hektarov zemljišč), za industrijske in poslovne cone, ki jih predlagajo občine, in za nova stanovanjska naselja in rekreacijske površine na prostem (igrišča za golf).
    http://razgledi.net/blog/2009/06/08/koliko-casa-bomo-se-imeli-njive-za-lastno-pridelavo-hrane/

  40. žblj pravi:

    Sever pravi:
    Janša pravi, da gre za opozorilo volilnega telesa vladi in njenemu ravnanju.

    narobe! jj pravi da so volilci poslali streznitveni signal.
    seveda, SD ni napihal 0.5

  41. konec pravi:

    ED, lepo napisano, balkanska vizija je in bo ostala zmagovalna vizija v Sloveniji, ne moreš pa zahtevati to po vseh ostalih evropskih državah.

  42. DragicaJ pravi:

    lucko pravi:

    8. junij, 2009 ob 11:29
    DragicaJ, na katerem planetu pa ti zivis?
    ————–
    trenutno na Zemlji.

  43. anton pravi:

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    Golobič, bodimo pošteni, je zakonsko ukazane norme spoštoval! Ja, manjši greh je, če je lagal nam, državljanom, saj nam lažejo vsi!
    Ljubčki, imamo, kar smo hoteli, “popačeno demokracijo”. Vsi zakoni, vse “elite” so vedeli, zakaj? Zakaj tako napisani zakoni, zakaj podrtje že zgrajenega… še malo, ko bo razdeljeno, kar je še nerazdeljenega, potem… potem… se nam pa bo prikazal Lucifer! Lastnina bo sveta.
    Tuđman je rekel: “Imamo Hrvatsku!”. Naši niso tako slikoviti, ali pa slabše uporabljajo materin jezik,
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  44. DragicaJ pravi:

    Bi še kaj napisala, pa ne želim motiti NoMercy -ja,Nogavičke in medek-a pri grupnem seksu, preveč uživajo in nočem jim odtegniti užitka. Grem na Mars.

  45. kvikl cvikl pravi:

    ed;
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    kje bosta sedela Kaco in Udbaš? A gresta direkt h socialistom?

  46. lucko pravi:

    @DragicaJ:
    Ves, da je zemlja 3. planet od sonca(povprecna razdalja 1 a.e.). Zdi se mi, da si bila ze sadaj na 4. planetu(povprecna razdalja 1,52366231 a.e.) glede na izjavo o NSi…

    Se par definicij za vsak slucaj:
    a.e. = 149.597.870.691 ± 30 m = Astronomska enota (oznaka a.e.) je dolzinska enota, ki se uporablja najvec v astronomiji in je priblizno enaka razdalji Zemlje od Sonca.
    Meter (oznacba m) je osnovna enota SI za merjenje dolzine, ki jo svetloba prepotuje v vakuumu v 1/299.792.458 sekunde.
    Planet je masivno telo, ki krozi okoli zvezde v svoji tirnici in ne proizvaja energije s pomocjo jedrskega zlivanja.

    Sedaj lahko preveris 2 dva nacina pravilnost izjave. Po stetju planetov in razdalji.

  47. Bobek leta pravi:

    Ohoho, prva precednica planetarnega odbora SDS, to je pa lepo napredovanje, Dragica.

  48. Cvetka pravi:

    Takšne in podobne kolumne se mi zdijo nesmiselne, saj je skregano z zdravo pametjo in logiko primerjati evropske volitve s paramentarnimi…. Poleg tega, toliko čejev - če, če, če…. Če bi bile parmentarne volitve tik pred Janševo vojno prosti tajkunom in novinarjem l 2007, bi SDS dobila mogoče 10%, v najboljšem primeru 15%….in to v času konjukture (no, potem so ploščo obrnili in vsi vemo, kako je šlo naprej do volitev - vrtci, vinjete, EU,….). Toliko o tem, kdo bi se moral kdaj zamisliti - če smo že pri zamišljanju.

    Torej, pravi trend se bo pokazal l. 2010 na lokalnih, pa še te volitve imajo neko specifiko. Do 2012 pa je še ogromno časa in do takrat se pa itak lahko zgodi marsikaj.

    Mogoče še beseda o katarzi NSi - rezultat res lepo izgleda, ampak to, koliko so vredni, bodo pokazale prej omenjene lokalne volitve. Dvomim, da bi se zadeva bistveno kaj spremenila, če bi bile paramantarne volitve - sploh pa brez Petreleta so itak pečeni. Ampak tudi svinjam je dovoljeno sanjati o koruzi.

    Torej, tisti, ki primerja te volitve s parmantarnimi, nima pojma ali pa samo zavaja.

  49. Polikarp pravi:

    SD s koalicijskimi partnerji v teh viharnih časih deluje kot sončna uprava ne pa kot vlada !

  50. BaraKuda pravi:

    Svinje (danes) sanjajo o naravni smrti….

    Sicer pa ne vem zakaj toliko govora o strankah, če pa gre za evropski parlament, kjer ime priimek sedi čisto drugje, kot je popredalčkan v naši lepi deželici…

    mi že gre ornk na k…. s temi strankami in delitvami

    ja, ampak bomo rabili še 100 let, da bomo bolj “normalni” vsi skupaj

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