V bistvu dokaj pomenljivo. Spraševalec bi šel lahko še dlje in se pozanimal, kako bi gospodične in gospodje reagirali na biseksualnost. Recimo, da bi gospodična izvedela, da je bila prejšnja zveza njenega dragega gejevska… Poznam primere.

Dost nasilja nad zdravo vecino!!

1. Na svetu zivi okoli 5 miljard raznih vrst zivih bitij. Samo v eni vrsti, opic, samec spolno obcuje z samcem, toda ZGOLJ KOT KAZEN, ker mu posiljeni hoce prevzeti primat v krdelu!

2. Spolno netradicionalno usmerjeni ali po drugace, kot se govori naulici, pedri”, so bolniki. To je bolezen, kot je bila vcasih gobavost. Pri tem so poleg ostudnosti, tudi vir bolezni. Resitev je otok in izolacija!

3. Tega nasilja manjsin, agresivnosti in posiljevanja zdrave vecine, je res ze preko vsake mere. Pa izbrisani, pa naslje nad zenskami, pa kvazi skupine raznih interesov,….Eno samo posiljevanje delovne in zdrave vecie.

4. Interesantno, pa je, da to zgolj v krscanskem svetu in se to zgol;j v Rimokatoliskem in protestantskem. Ves ostali svet je s temi bolniki in nergaci ucinkovito resil problem. In dalje je interesantno, da vse te agresivne manjsine pljujejo najvecje blato prav po civilizaciji, ki jih bogato krmi.
Ce je ze vse tako nevzdrzno, pojdite na Kitajsko ali Afganistan ali Iran,…. Tam vas cakajo s odprtimi vesali.

Heh lih ta link sm pomislu, da ga nalepm pa vidm, da se me je prehitel.

Petrovič,
a boš zdej reku, da je spolnost med delfini, ki občujejo takrat, ko nimajo paritvenega obdobja nenaravna? Ne takšna spolnost in homoseksualnost je prav tako naravna kot takrat, ko ti seksaš in se zaščitiš z kondomom ali kot oralni sex. Saj spolnost ne služi samo reprodukciji(ludje so se itak preveč namnožili) ampak tudi zbliževanju med dvema čutečima bitjema.

O kakšni zdravi večini govoriš? In umenjaš samo pedre, lezbike si ti ne gnusijo mar ne? No če si pogledal prispevek pa si lahko ugotovil, da se večini žensk ne gnusijo pedri. Razmišli mal ne pa da se tko smešiš. Ker kot vidimo živiš v nekem svojem svetu in si stvari predstavlaš po svoje, ker vsak razumski človek bi preveril prvo takšne stvari, kot je bla ta o živalstvu.

Tudi v Sodomi in Gomori so bili takega mnenja, krucifix in justime.
Bog je ustvaril moskega in zensko, samca in samico, ne pa samca in samca.
Delfini se ljubijo, toda samci z samicami, ne pa istospolno.
Sicer je pa lazje najti tisoce izgovorov, pljunkov, kot eno samo boleco resnico priznanja in dejstva.
Nataliteta upada tocno tukaj, na gnilem zhodu. Tam, kjer je odnos naraven in trd, je kopica lepih in zdravih otrok.
Dvoje cutecih bitij je lahko tudi trdo prijateljstvo.
Homoseksualnost je bolezen, je pa ze prerasla v modo, ker je zadaj tudi zasluzek in homoseksualni lobiji.
In ta trditev ni nobeno nasilje, je zgolj fakt. Nasilje pa je, ko me nekdo zali za svoje mnenje.
Ce bi verjel in razmisljal, kot je in kar vse je, napisano, bi bil pa res brez lastnega jaza, votel odmev.
Se vecini zensk pedri gnusijo ali ne, ve le vecina zensk, tistih, ki bi z njimi zivele..
Pa smo s tem koncali, nista na nivoju, ste pa zaljiva, kar sem tudi pricakoval! Dvojka.

Petrovič,
seveda bo delfin sexal s samcem, če je tako usmerjen, zakaj pa nebi. Si ti morda spregledal en komentar vmes? Ko ti pojasnuje “krucefiks” da vse visoko razvite živali imajo delež homoseksualne populacije, še linke ti je dal za dokaz(klikneš jih pa z levim gumbom miške pa se ti odprejo). Homoseksualni živalski pari včasih celo poskrbijo tudi za mladiče, ki so izgubili starše. Vidiš nič nenaravnega ni tukaj.

Praviš da nataliteta upada na zahodu, tam kjer je odnos naravn in trd pa je kopica zdravih in lepih otrok(v prejšnm postu umenjaš Kitajsko ali Afganistan ali Iran). No naj ti povem, da tam otroci niso ne zdravi ne srečni ker stradajo, tam je namreč revščina(prav tako v aziji z izjemo Japonske in v Afriki, tudi v južni ameriki niso razmere kaj prijazne). To lahko zveš v informnativnih odajah, vsak večer ob 19h imaš dnevnik lahko pa vzameš v roke kakšen časopis kot je npr. Delo, tudi interent pride v poštev. Poglej mi homoseksualci bomo ostali na zahodu, kjer so razmere najbolj normalne, ti pa se lahko preseliš tja. Samo ti tega ne priporčam.

Veš vse to so dejstva, poudarjam PREVERLJIVA dejstva. Nikar nam ne očitaj, da smo žaljivi, ker ti si v svojem prvem postu toliko bolj. Zdaj sem se potrudil, da ti zadevo pojasnim na kar najenostavnejši način. Res pa nočem biti žaljiv, najvrjetneje si po pisanju sodeč kakšen osnovnošolski otrok, skratka povprašaj o vseh stvareh, ki jih ne razumeš očka in mamico, če pa ti jih ne znata pojasniti pa se malo potrudi in se pozanimaj na internetu, saj ni težko.

Napisal si, da smo končali ker nisva na nivoju in ker sva žaljiva. Zakaj nisva na nivoju, zato ker piševa o DEJSTVIH in ne o izmišljotinah kot ti? Ne gre se zato, da si opazil, da ne moreš kljubovati DEJSTVOM in DOKAZANIM stvarem(kot so te o živalih) in zato lepo “rep pod noge” in se skriješ. Naslednič se raje pozanimaj o stvareh predn na široko razglabljaš o njih.

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JakaTomc, zaenkrat je bilo le nekaj arogance tako da se mi zdi vse še na meji normale, saj nihče še ni koga zmerjal ali pozival k nasilju, kot to počnejo na mnogih forumih kjer je vse dovoljeno.

Ok, če tko pravš. Sam je pa mal hudo vse to tvoje razmišlanje. Učitn posod zaroto vidš.
To že vem, da ne gre vsemu vrjet kar pravjo po informativnih oddajah na tv, še manj pa kašnim dokumentarcem.
Sam o enih osnovnih stvareh, kot so neurejene razmere v tretjem svetu in lakota(npr.v Afriki) ni šans, da bi se to zmislil.
Tko kot ne more bit to o homoseksualnosti pr živalih izmišljotina. Na link še enkrat če si ga spregledu:
http://www.ljudmila.org/sgs/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=202

Kar se mene tiče midva nimava različnih mnenj, ker eno je osebno mnenje, neki druzga so pa DEJSTVA, torej preverljiva dokazana dejstva, in nevem kaj bi moj mnenje tuki delu če so to znanstveniki dokazal. Sm pa že neki čist prištevnih ljudi slišu rečt, da je njihov pes al mačk peDer. Moj mnenje tuki ni pomembn al kako bi men blo všeč, da je. Je pa treba ostat realn.

Ker poglej js vem, da je naš planet okrogu, sam če boš ti trdil da je ravna plošča nebom mogu tvojga mnenja spoštovat ampak te bom mel za zmešanga. Oprost sam tko je, pa brez zamere.

Kaj si ti kšno Matrico preveč gledu?

Moje mnenje ostaja, da je homoseksualnost pac bolezen. Ali vsaj nenaravna.
Ali je ta bolezen, nenaravnost, nalezljiva, dedna ali usojena, je pa stvar debate.
Istospolno obcevanje pac ni naravno, Bog je ustvaril samca in samico za dolocene namene, da se dopolnjujeta.
Lahko pa se strinjam, da je prijateljstvo in tovaristvo lepa stvar, celo bistvo zivljenja samega, toda ne tudi spolno obcevanje samca z samcem.
O zarotah pa bi raje s bolj kvalificiranim razpravljal. Odvisno s kakega stalisca gledas, kako visoko in kako globoko in kako siroko.
O lakoti v tretjem svetu pa tole:
1. tretji svet je najvecji kupec najdrazjega in istocasno odpadnega, vojaskega materiala. Njihovi vladarji, tudi Hamas-ovi, imajo mlijarde na racunih. Narod pa je kruh in vodo Toda najprej bodo morali vreci svoje krvnike, po tem pa jokati. Zahod jih krmi, kot bi obratno ne bilo nikoli.
2. Ni nujno sreca povezana z bogastvom. Videl, zivel, sem v tem svetu, med temi ljudmi in povem ti, jedo le caj in kruh in kake makarone na mleku. Toda srecni so! Mnogo srecnejsi, kot bogatasi v zlatih kletkah in manj ujedljivi. Ne prenasajte meril gnilega zahoda na z naravo vezan vzhod.

Internet vse prenese. Mimogrede. Mnenje znanega, starejsega, svetovno priznanega, ocenografa:
delfini se ljubijo po razkosni pojedini, toda samo samci z samicami!

Ce si mnenja, da je zemlja okrogla, me ne moti. Morda ni povsem okrogla. Tudi prostor je baje malo ukrivljen, v vesolju. Jaz nisem nikoli trdil, da je ploscata. Vse pa je relativno. Samo eno je absolutno, da je na internetu se vedno, Darwinova teorija in starost piramid kakih 2000 let. Baje ni res.

pf…
pičke so za pedre… :)

je pa tko… ko si bosta prva dva pedra prfukala otroka (s tem da ga bo eden tud rodil) jim jest priznam vse pravice….

tolk cajta so pa…

M pravi:
res bolje, da bi se ne vklapljali v debato s takimi bolanimi resnicami, ki so izmisljotine vase glave.
Ce dvomite o obstoju naravnega (vesoljnega )reda, je to pac vasa pravica. Ni pomenbna. Vidi ga le tisti, ki ga hoce videti. Dinozavri, Grki, praljudje, so del sistema naravnega reda pojave, obstoja in propada in nekoc bo tudi ta civilizacija. To njen obstoj samo potrjuje.Malo bosa je tudi o tem, kaj so Grki imeli raje. Se ena potegnjena iz, kot je rekla sosedova Zofka, kravje riti. Temelj zahodne civilizacije pa niso postavili Grki, temvec temelji na Judizmu in protestantstvu.
Ne vpletaj cerkve, ce nimas pametnejsih in tehtnejsih argumentov, kot izmisljotine in klevete.
Vsakemu pravice samo po zaslugah. Kdor ne dela naj ne je.
Biblije pa tudi ne tolmaci, ker je ne razumes. Kar razumes pa je sovrastvo.

Adijo pamet.

Naravno ali nenaravno. Ježeš, še kar smo tu? Glej, če imaš kam za potisnit penis in ob tem uživaš, kot ob tem uživa tudi oseba v katero tiščiš penis, se meni zdi to čisto naravno. Isto z lulikami. Ne? Toliko o seksu. Potem še o ljubezni. Kje je problem, ko se dve odrasli osebi vzajemno odločita, da se bosta imeli radi? Ne glede na spol.

justme: “istospolno usmerjene osebe naj bojo samo naj ne zahtevajo nekaterih pravic ki niso moralne niti za otroka niti za druzbo!vedno vec pravic bi meli!”

justme, hvala da dovoljuješ moj obstoj. Ne bi imeli vedno več pravic. Samo iste bi imeli kot vsi ostali. In ne razmetavaj preveč z besedami ‘moralno’ in ‘družba’, da ne bomo začeli definirati stvari.

Za tega Petrovca pa se mi zdi, da razmišlja o homoseksualnem seksu še več kot jaz. Edino, jaz sem homoseksualec. Hm…

Bu!

Zmenjeno!

tale stran je podobna kaki zasmrajeni vaski beznici, kjer ducat zapitih hribovcev resuje, slinastih in poscanih, svetovno politiko in vesoljni red in so specialisti za spolnost. Doma pa stala. pa prides in reces, da je prisel cas, k se stacuna zapira, vina ne bo vec. In prileti z vseh koncev flas in psovk in dokazov, da nimas pojma o uri in da jim kratis pravice.
Res, najpametneje je zapreti za sabo vrata z zunanje strani in oditi in jih pustiti v lastnem …..
Saj jih slej ko prej cakata spoznanje in valjar, pa kaka bolezen .

Homofobíja (iz grščine homós: enak; phobos: strah, fobija) označuje sovražnost do homoseksualcev. Beseda ne pomeni dejansko fobije kot bolezenski strah, marveč neutemeljeno averzijo do istospolnosti. Gre za eno pogostih oblik diskriminacije v družbi.
http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homofobija

Na kaj naletimo pri Petrovcu?

Averzija….check
Neutemeljena….check

Be proud and be loud. You’re a homo…….phobe.:D

Petrovič,
lepo si povedu, torej ZNANOST je zate zasmrajena beznica. In znanstveniki so zate zapiti slinasti poscani hribovci???????

Poglej mi vsaj nismo tok nagjeni k nakladaštvu kot ti, mi smo vsaj priložili linke o teh znanstvenih raziskav in posnetke iz dokumentarnih oddaj. Ti tega nisi sposoben narditi, ker poglej če ceu svet tako sovraži homoseksualce, ta zdrava večina kot praviš potem so verjetno poskušali dokazati da so te posnetki prevara, verjetno so hoteli uvršti te znanstvene raziskave, saj more biti njihov interes toliko večji kot interes homoseksualcev, saj je njih več. No če hočeš nas prikazati kot bedake, nam to dokaži, daj linke raziskav, ki so to uspele uvršti(ni jih, ker jim ni uspelo mimgrede), ker to da pišeš o beznicah ni način.

Ti kar vrjami pravljicam, mi bomo raje znanosti. Zato te še enkrat pozivam k zdravemu razumu in logičnemu razmišlanju, koliko ti ga je sploh še ostalo(kaj pomeni beseda “logika” lahko pogledaš v slovar tujk).

In res ti priporočam ne piši več sem ker se vedno bolj sramotiš.

@Petrovc:
Refleksija….check
Samorefleksija….uncheck

Debate je konec z moje strani. Ali si provokator ali pa je tvoje mnenje res diametralno nasprotno mojemu, zaradi česar nikdar ne bi prišla do konca.

Petrovič, se ti je zdj dokončno zmešalo?
Ker to kar ti pišeš zgleda kot blodnje zmešnga človeka(ker to ni niti slab humor).

Se tko pokaže tvoj odpor ko te kdo poziva k razmišlanju al zdravmu razumu, ti popustijo živci in se ti strga?
Najbolš, da še naprej bereš svoje pravljice in snegulcka, ker ostalo je očitno prezahtevno zate. In živi v svojem svetu, kjer so le zahodnjaki tok ogabni, da se grejo istospolni sex, pri živalih pa to ne obstaja. In sanjaj o indiji koromandiji kjer se cedita med in mleko. Medtem bo pa sosedov cucek za tvojim hrbtom natepaval psa. Sam ti tega neboš pogruntal, ker nekaj v kar nočeš vrjeti tudi ne obstaja.

revež ubogi zaostal

AJA, ENTIP, pozabu sm se podpisat: tvoj vedno ljubec Zavbi.
Pa se to, vodo pod drukom mamo za ciscenje crev, k klobasarmo. Sj poznas, k zarines klobasarco in napolns s maso. Brez cesa na kmeth ne gre.
Pa se tole, ce mas alergijo na cesplo, bos vhka pocivov tud pod tepko.

Pa si oglejmo tisti KRONSKI dokaz o homo delfinih:
1. V podnaslovu je pomenljiv napis: “Bog sovrazi homofobe”
Takoj je jasno, kdo in s kaksnim znanstvenim pristopom je ta clanek objavil v NG.
2. Sam film ne dokazuje NICESAR! Delfini se radostno igrajo in dotikajo s kljuni. Je to del radosti,
srece, prijateljstva, preprosto radozivosti zivljenja? NI pa nobenega seksa, se posebej ne homo.

Stvar je taka, kot z Darwinom, ki je na zelvi dokazoval izvor cloveka iz opice.
Stvar je taka, kot bi Marsovci posneli film o dobitnikih zlatih medalj na olimpijadi, ki jih poljubljajo
ob podelitvi in bi na Marsu napisali, da ljudje natepavamo metal (zlato).

3. Sam clanek, novinarka, pac na veliko pise o homoseksualnosti med zivalmi, brez dokazov. Delfini
na filmu ne seksajo. Ali je novinarka lezbijka, placana za tak clanek ali pa zagnana in bi rada prisla
do afirmacije za vsako ceno.
O vsesplosni normalni homoseksualnosti med zivalmi je tu toliko govora, da se ze vprasas, ce
nismo normalni ljudje nenormalni. Clanek je prava sramota za vsak resen bilten.
Dokazi pa nikjer prikazani, razen glave opice, ki to pocne v boju za prevlado v krdelu. Zanimivo, o
tem pa nic.

4. Pa se malo neresna trditev, da psi natepavajo pse na vsakem vogalu. Tak pes je bolan in po rditvah
kinologa za pregled in inekcijo.

Aha, sedaj mi je pa vse jasno. Za sreco sta dva pogoja:
1. GBP>8.000$ (+ Chavez)
2. Vtikanje lulike v vsako luknjo. (sindrom muhe, ki seda na vsak drek)

Homoseksualnost je nenaravna, nemoralna in je bolezen glave duse in krvi.

Resno pa iz predlaganega argumenta:
1. Se en ANTI argument, po delfinih.
2. Po napovedih dveh silnih politologov in sociologov in filozofov, bi morale USA bankrotirati ze sredi
septembra 2008, oziroma se konec decembra 2008 “utopiti v lastnem dreku”. Pa je danes cena $
natanko 90% vecja kot ob teh dveh apokalipticnih napovedih, tudi vzeto iz tega argumenta.
3. Afganistan, Tanzanija&Etiopija&Angola, Haiti&Nikaragva, Gruzija. To so tako razlicne kulture po
sklopih, da jih ni moc mesati.
4. Vasi argumenti so kot strasila v polju koruze. Od dalec zgledajo, napihnjena in raztegnjena
prepricljivo grozljiva. Ko pa jih sleces vidis, da je le slama in nekaj skrpucalaste navlake.

Zakljucek: da se razumemo, nihce vam ne brani, odreka, pravico ziveti po svoje. Toda ne kricite venomer znova, kalimerovsko, da hocete vec pravic kot vam izhaja iz rezultatov svojega dela. To velja tudi za vse ostale “netradicionalne” manjsine. In zaboga, spostujte kulturno sredino v kateri zivite in lahko v toplem dreku civkate. Drugje prehitro prileti macek.

Sreca je clovekova intimna stvar in je vezana na vsakega zase. Njegove upe in njegove strahove.
Ne pa dvodimenzionalno tabelo GBP v $!

Sprva navdušenje nad mirnimi odzivi, potem pa takile komentarji. Noro! Bomo pač prijavili na Spletno oko.

LP.

Petrovič
no vidiš saj se da razpravljati tudi brez žaljenja,
ok pač delfini niso homoseksualni, povj mi kaj pa je pol z levi, opicami, ovni k se grejo analni sex???
Ti bom dal leve za primer, ker majo grivo da nauš trdu da to delajo s samicami.

levi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YtP98EvGJ4

(takih posnetkov je na tisoče, znanstveniki preučvali zadeve in dokazali homoseksualnost med žvalmi tak da ni to več vprašanje)

No kaj je stemi levi npr.? Reku si, da homoseksualnost med žvalmi ne obstaja tak, da mi prosim razlož kaj je to??????????

Petrovič
vidiš saj se da pogovarjati tudi na kulturen način brez žaljenja, saj ti nobeden noče nič slabega,
ok pač delfini niso homoseksualni, pač nism najdu bolših posnetkov.

Sam povj mi kaj pa je pol z levi, opicami, ovni(in še mnogimi drugimi vrstami) k se grejo analni sex???
Ti bom dal leve za primer, ker majo grivo da nauš trdu da to delajo s samicami.
levi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YtP98EvGJ4
(takih posnetkov je na tisoče, znanstveniki so to proučevali in dokazali, da homoseksualnost med žvalmi obstaja tako, da to ni več vprašanje)

No kaj je stemi levi npr.? Reku si, da homoseksualnost med žvalmi ne obstaja tak, da mi prosim razlož kaj je to?????????

Zakaj za vraga bi ga prijavili na spletno Oko??!! Ravno toliko pravice uima govoriti proti homoseksualcem, kakor imate homoseksualci in njihovi privrženci govoriti v njihovo prid in jih podrpirati. Tudi jaz sem istega mnenja kot Petrovc, da je istospolna usmerjenost bolezen; je sicer naravno vse skupaj z tem se strinjam, ampak saj ej tudi rak naravnega izvora, še vedno, četudi so škodljive rakave celice so del človeka in njegovega telesa inso žive. Tako je tudi istospolna usmerjenost bolezen in kdorkolik trdi drugače se samo slepi pred resnico. Je bolezen, ki jo je treba pozdraviti, je ša žal tudi zadnje čase modna muha saj je pedrov vsepovsod polno in kamor pogledaš vidiš samo še poženščene tipe in to se mi gnusi, saj se ustvarja nek nedotakljiv lobi, ki hoče na vsak način doseči vse več in več pravic,in nazadnje človek sploh ne ve kaj še hočejo?!

Bob ob steno!

Revolucija:
zanimivo izhodisce, ki v neki meri drzi.
No, moja ocena je, da takih moskih NIKAKOR ni ogromno! So pa tudi posamezniki.
Je pa dejstvo, da so moski na zhodu vse bolj mehkuzni, negotovi in vse manj lovci a vse bolj nabiralci.
Tako se stevilni, tudi mladi, raje ob vecerih druzijo med sabo, moskimi, ob pivu, kot bi sli na “lov” za zenskami.
Vzrok je preprost, EMANCIPACIJA, proglasanje normalnih norm za nenormalne in obratno, sodstvo,….
Odnos med moskim in zensko je na zahodu POPOLNOMA nenormalen, nenaraven.
V nekem bistvu so si zenske s tem naredile medvedjo uslugo. Tudi same niso vec zenske.
Toda sredstva obvescanja poneumljajo naprej.
Se kdaj vprasate, zakaj neka kultura tako odlocno zavraca zahodno? Ker ve, da je to stala brez prihodnosti.
Vzor je lahko odnos v Aziji. Vzor in odgovor na vsa vprasanja gnilega odnosa med zenskami in moskimi na zahodu. Prava milina je pogledati odnose v muslimanski Aziji.
Moske, ki so moski in zenske, ki so zenske.
Zahodna civilizacija je padla prav na tem odnosu.
Ni pa res, da ogromno moskih, porocenih, seksa z moskimi.
Res pa je, da beze od zensk, ker je to pac posledica agresivnega matriarhata.
Vsa odgovornost je na ramah moskih. Denat, kuhanje, pranje, pomivanje, poprodniska, nakupi,…..
Vse pravice pa na strani zensk.
V druzini pa demokracija s pravico veta vsakega smrkavca.

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OK, to je pa zdaj več kot očitno.

Petrovc je v bistvu Jonas pod krinko, ki mu je dolgčas in se malo heca.

Pa smo te dobili! Ha.

Hmm, tale hipoteza o emancipaciji zgodovinsko nekako šepa. Če bi se propad zahodne civilazicje začel z pojavom feminizma bi lahko sklepal, da je do druge svetovne vojne na zahodu bilo vse v redu. Se mi zdi da se je razkroj moralnih in etičnih vrednot začel že bistveno prej.
@Razsodnik A heteroseksualni par ki ne more imeti otrok, po tvoje, tudi ni enakopraven?
Kaj pa samske ženske ki spočnejo otroka pa nimajo partnerja ali pa homoseksualen par ki otroka posvoji? Tvoje post-kolonialistično stališče verjetno tudi ne odobrava seksa s kontracepcijo in abortusa.
A se motim?

Vsi toplovodarji in lezbače, bi bili radi “normalni”, poročali bi se (in mnogi tudi se ), imeli bi otroke,
med tem pa plazili eden po drugim za hrbti žen, mater. Res je, da jih narava “kaznuje ” le okoli dva odstotka, vse drugo pa je priučeno. Skoraj vsi našteti so tudi veliki segregatorji, če se znajdeš med njimi. Poznal sem nekdanjo uslužbenko na RTV-eju, ki je trdila, da je tam osemdeset % takšnih zmešancev, ki nam potem v odajah vsiljujejo Slovencem ksenofobijo, homofobijoitd…Ljublana je bulana ! KOT PASTIR PA IMAM ISKUŠNJO, DA KRAVA NI NIKDAR SKOČILA PO KRAVI, ČE JE BIL NA PAŠI VSAJ BIKEC, KAKO NARAVNO !!!

Petrovič,
kaj a zdaj pa ne morš zanikat, da homoseksualnost med žvalmi ne obstaja, ko vidiš posnetke pravega sexa. Zdj pa se lepo zatečeš k ignoriranju, kaj se je tko težko sprijaznit z resnico? Mar bi me že na začetku poslušu, ko sm ti reku, da se raje ne smeši več in nehaj pisati.

Tvoja trditev: 1. Na svetu zivi okoli 5 miljard raznih vrst zivih bitij. Samo v eni vrsti, opic, samec spolno obcuje z samcem, toda ZGOLJ KOT KAZEN, ker mu posiljeni hoce prevzeti primat v krdelu.
No naj ti povem, da na področja konga živijo bonobo šimpanzi in vsi predstavniki vrste so biseksualni, sex jim je zabava samec s samico, samec s samcem, samice s samicami. Poišči vire malo pa boš videl da drži, tudi v dokumentarnih oddajah lahko to vidiš, tudi predmete uporablajo kot spolne pripomočke. Samec občuje s samcem le da ga kaznuje, pri bonobo šimpanzih gotovo ne, saj imajo pri njih glavno vlogo samice.
Zdaj mi pa razloži a je narava ustvarila nenaravno vrsto???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YtP98EvGJ4
Ja pa povj mi kaj je stemi levi npr., ki se grejo sex kot vidiš na posnetku?

Petrovič,
kaj a zdej ne morš nič napisat? REKU SI, DA SAMO V ENI VRSTI POLEG LJUDI SAMEC SPOLNO OBČUJE S SAMCEM. Zdj pa raj ignoriraš, no stem kažeš le kakšen nesposobneš si. Kaj boš zapru oči in si reku, da to ni res, levi že ne delajo tega. A tko počneš v živlenju, raj zamižiš in si stvari predstavljaš kot je tebi všeč, ker nezmorš živet v realnosti. Revež.
In predvsem nakladač. Praviš, da je tvoja ocena, da poročenih moških ki spijo z moškimi v sloveniji nikakor ni ogromno. Kaj a zdej si pa postal že specjalist za homoseksualnost? Tako kot si specjalist za spolnost živali. No učitno tvoje trditve ne držijo, ker levji samci veselo sexajo na unmu posnetku. Nakladač, da ni večjega, zdaj si se izkazu kakšen si.

In kako nj potem sprejmemo tudi ostale trditve tega primitivnega nezanesljivega človeka za pravilne. Človeka ki je tako prepotenten, da vrjame lastnim ležem in nakladštvu.

Jure,
ne zaferkava se, on je res zaostal. Se vid to po podrobnostih(npr. k napiše: Takoj je jasno, kdo in s kaksnim znanstvenim pristopom je ta clanek objavil v NG). Osnovni pojmi mu niso jasni, učitno z revežem ne štima vse.
Pa nj mi gdo očita da sem žaljiv po tem kaj je on pisu.

P.S.: Se opravičujm za večkratne komentarje prej, računalnik neki nagaja.

Hehe, neke znanstvene debate, pa dodajate boga, po znanstveni plati ni bog ustvaril človeka, po tej plati boga sploh ni!

Da ni ta Miha morda MUHA predavatelj iz veleja, ta je šele pokvarjen !

Toplovodarji se mi gabijo.

Kake dobre lezbače bi se pa usmilil.

Se en len krap, ki bi bil rad, ki sanja da bo, scuka, v zasmrajenem ribniku.

@KAKTUS. Ko bos naslednjic zelel uporabiti zobno scetko jo odlozi in pusti da ti po “zakonih narave” zgnijejo zobje. Ubij vsaj tretjino svojih kolegov, ker bi ti po zakonih narave ze davno morali umreti. Ko bos nameraval k zdravniku, pozabi, ker ti ne pripada zdravje, ki ga zagotavlja znanje pridobljeno proti “zakonom narave”. Umri pri stiridesetih, ce si zelo mocan in inteligenten, ker v divjini bi te nekdo ali nekaj v nasprotnem primeru ze prej ubilo.

Velicina mater in ocetov pa traja dokler traja spomin nanje. Nihce ni vecen. Nekatere matere in ocetje so izjemni, drugi pa izjemno slabi. Tako slabi, da si nekateri prizadevajo dolga leta zbrisati sledi, ki so jih na njih pustili.

Clovek se je uspel iztrgati iz narave in bogastvo znanja in kulture, ki smo ga pridobili v tisocletjih, nam vcasih omogoca boljse razumevanje. Nekateri znajo otroke vzgojiti v samostojne, zrele in razmisljujoce osebe.

Nekaj za homofobe, namesto delfinov: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=single-angry-straight-male

@ Over&Out

Če boš še enkrat prebral, boš videl, da sem govoril o tem, da bodo homoseksualci enakopravni s heteroseksualci takrat, ko se bo iz njihove spolne zveze spočel prvi otrok. Poudarek je torej na heteroseksualnosti in ne na pravni obliki zveze dveh heteroseksualcev ter na sposobnosti, zaploditi otroke.Zato ne provociraj s pari, ki ne morejo imeti otrok in s samskimi ženskami, ki imajo otroka, pa nimajo partnerja. Ko so ga spočele, so ga imele in sicer heteroseksualnega junaka.

O homoseksualnem paru, ki posvoji otroka, pa ne kaže igubljati besed. To se enostavno ne bi smelo zgoditi. Naravna pravica otroka je, da odrašča in se normalno socialno razvija ob heterosekualnih starših /enem ali dveh/.

Jap geji so hudi tipi, neki jih poznam, in pač ne bo nobeden od njih nikol moj :(

@RAZSODNIK
Prosim povej en argument zakaj bi homoseksualni starši bili manj primerni kot pa heteroseksualni.
Tole je na to temo objavila Ameriška Psihološka Zveza:
http://www.apa.org/pi/parent.html
V Ameriki od 2004 velja zakon ki homoseksualnemu paru dovoljuje posvojiti otroka, prav tako je to možno v Španiji in na Švedskem, mogoče tudi drugje. Od leta 1973 je homoseksualnost v razvitem svetu plod matere narave, takrat je APA namreč razglasila homoseksualnost za prirojeno. Zakaj bi narava po tvoje ustvarila manjvredno bitje?

Zakaj pa ti menjaš temo, a si ostal brez argumentov?

@RAZSODNIK

Tvoja utemeljitev zakonske zveze med dvema odraslima sloni izključno na tem da sta oba sposobna zaploditi otroka. Poroka dveh je bistveno več kot le to, saj ljudje tako pridobijo določene pravice in socialni status. Materialne pravice ki izhajajo iz zakonske zveze lahko danes celo prevladajo pri odločitvi. Gre namreč za dogovor o skupnem premoženju, dedovanju in nenazadnje pravicah da svojega partnerja lahko obiščeš v bolnici ali zaporu. Poroka med dvema osebama je pravni dokument in ko se greš poročit, te nihče ne vpraša če si ploden. Preprosto, poročita se lahko tudi dve osebi ki sta neplodni ali pa istega spola. Sodobna medicina ta problem lahko reši in obstajajo pa zveze kjer se nikoli ne rodi otrok pa čeprav za to ni nobene ovire. Pred zakonom in družbo so vse naštete situacije “normalne” in še posebaj enakopravne. Pomagamo heteroseksualnim parom, ki ne morejo imeti otrok, na zahodu pa so tega deležne tudi samske ženske.

Danes v Sloveniji otrok, ki bi imel istospolne starše nebi imel lahko pot, verejteno bi srečal veliko tebi podobnih. Poglej, vse kar si v vseh svojih komentarjih napisal je, da se tebi osebno homoseksualci zdijo neenaki zato ker ne morejo imeti otrok. Vendar to drži samo za dva moška, dve ženski bi lahko zaplodili otroka. Sicer ne po “misijonarsko”, pa bi vseeno lahko normalo odrasel. Normalo bi odrasel tudi otrok ki ima samo enega starša, najhuje pa je tistim ki odrastejo brez njih. Sem prepričan da bi te sirote bile vesele tudi dveh očkov ali mamic. Spolne navade staršev nimajo nobenega vpliva na otrokovo odraščanje, prakticirajo se za zaprtimi vrati in so del intime.

Če se sprašuješ zakaj ti odgovarjam pa ti ponujam naslednjo teorijo, spoštujem tvoje mnenje in se mi zdi pravično, da ti podam svoje argumentacije. Sicer pa o svoji spolni orientaciji nebi razpravljal kot praviš sam, to je del moje intime. Če pa si že odprl to temo pa si poglej kako ti ustreza tale profil :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_homosexuality

CVEK,SI KAJ SLIŠAL ZA UNIČEVALCA RDEČUHOV.DA NI MORDA BOLAN?

Hey RAZSODNIK, moje “vopanje” je kot vedno prepuščeno moji zdravi presoji. Ta mi še vedno pravi da si latenten homoseksualec. Dokazano je homo-fobija pogosto povezana z prikrito željo. Verjetno si ne upaš pomisliti da si tudi sam lahko ravno tak peder. Strokovno se temu pojavu reče projekcija. Poišči si pomoč ;)

Konec človeške rase pa pospešujejo taki pacienti kot si ti.
Poglej si kaj sem ti napisal pod #78 in podrobno poglej kaj Ameriška zveza psihologov pravi na temo homoseksualnega starševstva:
http://www.apa.org/pi/parent.html

Mefisto, Dekadentno je to da misliš da imaš pravico sodit o ljubezenskih navadah posameznika. Primitivno pa je da za svoje obtožbe nimaš nobenega argumenta, razen svojega osebnega stališča. Podton tvojega razmišljanja je da bi vsi morali biti taki kot si ti zamišljaš. V realnosti se boriš z mlini na veter, namišljenimi sovražniki, kot Don Kihot.
Raje si poglej kaj je izjavil Sean Penn, ko je dobil Oscarja za vlogo Harveya Milka, gaya ki je bil prav tako uspešen v politiki.
http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/02/22/sean-penns-wonderful-oscars-acceptance-speech/
Pomisli kako boš svojim vnukom pogledal v oči in jim razodel svoja srednjeveška stališča. Lahko se namreč zgodi da bo tudi kakšen tvoj potomec homoseksualec, v naprej mu želim veliko potrpežljivosti, drugače mu v življenju ne bo lahko.

Srečen ni tisti, ki ima, kar želi, temveč oni, ki si ne želi
tistega, česar nima.

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